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whats the difference hereford polled vs horned
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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1301605" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>In some circles this is a really hot topic that some will have a very strong opinion 1 way or another and you won't change some of those people's opinions regardless if you present relevant examples how their opinion isn't always factual. Personally if you don't care about horned or polled status then all that should matter is the quality of the herefords you are looking at because you can find very good cattle both polled or horned and you can also find some poor ones too and wether they have horns or not is not the reason behind it but the quality of the genetics and animals behind them. That's just how I view it, I don't have a negative biased against horned herefords and I really wish some of the guys on both sides would quit pitting the horned vs polled thing against each other and just focus on improving the breed as a whole instead of spewing crap out there that one is better than the other.</p><p></p><p>We raise polled herefords but you can find some horned genetics in some of our pedigrees which whenever you have a recessive gene it will occasionally come to the surface once in awhile so we do get some horned calves once in awhile. The main reason we raise polleds are we just don't like messing with horns. Yeah I know you can either paste them just after birth which we do if we detect horns which aren't always present at birth or dehorn after weaning. We'd just rather not have to deal with dehorning at all and breed them polled so we only buy or use polled bulls, preferably homozygous polled if possible too.</p><p></p><p>I also think where you are located plays a big part of how marketable horned or polled herefords can be too. In some areas of the country horned herefords are king while other areas some breeders may find polled herefords more desirable. Once in awhile we'll have a dehorned bull or heifer in our private treaty offerings and they are just as good if not some of the best calves in the group but we find that since they are horned there is less interest in them than our polled calves. Maybe that's because we're a polled breeder, we had several commercial breeders pass on probably the best bull in our sale pen a few years back because he was horned. We would tell them that if they were using him on purebred or predominately black angus crossbred females that the polled Angus gene is the dominant gene so wether the bull is polled or horned should not matter but some guys around here will avoid horns at all costs regardless. He eventually sold but he should have been the 1st bull any commercial breeder should have picked out of the pen so depending on your market and how "informed" your audience is might dictate just how marketable a horned or polled hereford may be.</p><p></p><p>Some of the comments made above are legit though. The frame race with the polleds especially was a big one that really hurt the quality in the 90's and thankfully breeders finally came to their senses and brought frame down to a more moderate size while adding back the muscle that they lost by breeding those big lanky framed cattle that lacked it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1301605, member: 20580"] In some circles this is a really hot topic that some will have a very strong opinion 1 way or another and you won't change some of those people's opinions regardless if you present relevant examples how their opinion isn't always factual. Personally if you don't care about horned or polled status then all that should matter is the quality of the herefords you are looking at because you can find very good cattle both polled or horned and you can also find some poor ones too and wether they have horns or not is not the reason behind it but the quality of the genetics and animals behind them. That's just how I view it, I don't have a negative biased against horned herefords and I really wish some of the guys on both sides would quit pitting the horned vs polled thing against each other and just focus on improving the breed as a whole instead of spewing crap out there that one is better than the other. We raise polled herefords but you can find some horned genetics in some of our pedigrees which whenever you have a recessive gene it will occasionally come to the surface once in awhile so we do get some horned calves once in awhile. The main reason we raise polleds are we just don't like messing with horns. Yeah I know you can either paste them just after birth which we do if we detect horns which aren't always present at birth or dehorn after weaning. We'd just rather not have to deal with dehorning at all and breed them polled so we only buy or use polled bulls, preferably homozygous polled if possible too. I also think where you are located plays a big part of how marketable horned or polled herefords can be too. In some areas of the country horned herefords are king while other areas some breeders may find polled herefords more desirable. Once in awhile we'll have a dehorned bull or heifer in our private treaty offerings and they are just as good if not some of the best calves in the group but we find that since they are horned there is less interest in them than our polled calves. Maybe that's because we're a polled breeder, we had several commercial breeders pass on probably the best bull in our sale pen a few years back because he was horned. We would tell them that if they were using him on purebred or predominately black angus crossbred females that the polled Angus gene is the dominant gene so wether the bull is polled or horned should not matter but some guys around here will avoid horns at all costs regardless. He eventually sold but he should have been the 1st bull any commercial breeder should have picked out of the pen so depending on your market and how "informed" your audience is might dictate just how marketable a horned or polled hereford may be. Some of the comments made above are legit though. The frame race with the polleds especially was a big one that really hurt the quality in the 90's and thankfully breeders finally came to their senses and brought frame down to a more moderate size while adding back the muscle that they lost by breeding those big lanky framed cattle that lacked it. [/QUOTE]
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