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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1283226" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>I won't argue with y'all on many of those points.</p><p> </p><p>Enough cows carrying the red gene in my herd that I'm getting some red calves... push-back/discount has been minimal to nonexistent the last 2-3 years... do I anticipate getting a premium for reds? No, red is not yet the new black. </p><p>I like red cattle, and while it ticks me off to get docked for red calves that are essentially 3/4-7/8 sibs to the blacks - and are every bit as good... I like having them in the herd. With only 75 cows, I probably qualify as a hobby breeder, but I expect the cows to pay their own way and provide some profit.</p><p></p><p>Chrome... Yeah, I've got one family of cows that carry the Simmental spotting gene... sometimes throw a lot of chrome... and I take a hit... but they do it with Angus, solid black Simmentals, as well as with Shorthorns; good enough cows that I'll just roll with the punch. There are some roan and r/w/m Shorties I'd love to use... but I'm not gonna... I'd like some more Pinzgauer-cross cows, too, but I'm not gonna take the hit those skunk-tailed calves will take when the buyers steal them as 'Longhorn-crosses'. </p><p></p><p>I don't even have any idea where the closest non-showring-type Shorthorn breeder is to me... but I can get semen on some good ones. Most of the breeders of Angus & Simmental sires we've used by AI in the last 10 years are not located anywhere near here...same for the Braunvieh sires I'm planning to sample this fall.</p><p></p><p>I grew up in east-central AL... only recall seeing one herd that had some OLD Shorthorn/Hereford crosses in my area. Moved to southern middle TN after vet school... there was only one Shorthorn breeder in my practice area (3-4 counties). Rarely saw any in mid-MO, there are none within 100+ miles of me here in KY, so far as I know. But the Shorthorn sires we've used in our crossbreeding program have done an outstanding job for us. You don't have to use them, but you might be surprised at just how good they can be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1283226, member: 12607"] I won't argue with y'all on many of those points. Enough cows carrying the red gene in my herd that I'm getting some red calves... push-back/discount has been minimal to nonexistent the last 2-3 years... do I anticipate getting a premium for reds? No, red is not yet the new black. I like red cattle, and while it ticks me off to get docked for red calves that are essentially 3/4-7/8 sibs to the blacks - and are every bit as good... I like having them in the herd. With only 75 cows, I probably qualify as a hobby breeder, but I expect the cows to pay their own way and provide some profit. Chrome... Yeah, I've got one family of cows that carry the Simmental spotting gene... sometimes throw a lot of chrome... and I take a hit... but they do it with Angus, solid black Simmentals, as well as with Shorthorns; good enough cows that I'll just roll with the punch. There are some roan and r/w/m Shorties I'd love to use... but I'm not gonna... I'd like some more Pinzgauer-cross cows, too, but I'm not gonna take the hit those skunk-tailed calves will take when the buyers steal them as 'Longhorn-crosses'. I don't even have any idea where the closest non-showring-type Shorthorn breeder is to me... but I can get semen on some good ones. Most of the breeders of Angus & Simmental sires we've used by AI in the last 10 years are not located anywhere near here...same for the Braunvieh sires I'm planning to sample this fall. I grew up in east-central AL... only recall seeing one herd that had some OLD Shorthorn/Hereford crosses in my area. Moved to southern middle TN after vet school... there was only one Shorthorn breeder in my practice area (3-4 counties). Rarely saw any in mid-MO, there are none within 100+ miles of me here in KY, so far as I know. But the Shorthorn sires we've used in our crossbreeding program have done an outstanding job for us. You don't have to use them, but you might be surprised at just how good they can be. [/QUOTE]
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