Caustic Burno":2c2yxyou said:
tom4018":2c2yxyou said:
Went to a sale today and seen this bull sell, Angus 15128513.
Built really good and has better than average numbers. For $1050 I thought someone got a good deal. Would you have considered him if you needed a bull?
They had 8 bulls all but 2 were in this price range. Some open yearling commercial heifers went for less than $700.
But some commercial heifers with 2 week old calves went for 1275 - 1425. Some reg. cow/calf pairs 1400-2000. Some bred commercial heifers 800-900.
Only what someone is willling to pay. Papers don't mean much to a lot of cattrlemen except those in their back pocket.
To answer the question - "Would you have considered him if you needed a bull?", one must determine the reason(s) for "needing" a bull! Some of the reasons would be:
1 - I am a Registered Angus breeder and this is a purebred Angus bull. Is he Registered? Is he Genetypically and Phenotypically qualified to
improve my business?
2 - This bull is not quite 18 months old. Is he old enough to do the job I need to have done? How many females do I have for him to breed?
3 - What are "better than average" numbers?
4 - Am I astute enough to really understand the significance of his pedigree and genetic background? This bull has a "Striking" good pedigree. Does his Phenotype verify the expenditure of $1050 plus 'costs'?
5 - Could I utilize AI and get semen from a bull which would result in a more desirable calf crop than this particular bull can be expected to produce?
6 - This bull has a remarkably fine genetic background (pedigree). Do I "need" this genetype and phenotype in my herd - or do I just need a "cow freshener?"
7 - Are his feet and legs optimal for a breeding bull, and is he healthy in all other considerations?
8 - I am a commercial breeder. THEREFORE - - return to the third sentence of reason #1 and answer the rest of the reasons in order.
After answering these questions to my satisfaction, and, of course, realizing other factors at hand at the moment, I submit that $1050 is not too high a price for this particular bull at this time. But - - one man's meat is another man's poison! The question of "what is an animal worth" is ethereal and can only be answered by the potential buyer.
DOC HARRIS