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<blockquote data-quote="noriko" data-source="post: 229013" data-attributes="member: 4128"><p>I think all you guys know what you are talking about and are correct and let me be the one to admit I still did not articulate my situation well enough for you folks to help me as I asked. So, I apologize for misleading some of you or making any generic remarks that are not true in other places. </p><p></p><p>I got that remark I said about needing 1500 acres from my local John Deere shop. I think what was said to me was a minimum of 1500 acres to "make a living" not a profit and maybe it was said to me thinking of a family situation and in my particular case I refer to dry land as well as a short growing season due to cold spring weather so I am sorry I did not make this clear and I think it is my fault which generated any negative feelings so I take responsibility on that totally. My particular land in addition is a bit sandy and it seems to take a long time for anything to grow. I did talk to the local ag expert and was told on my land they suspect i can run a total of about one cow per two acres but I think that does not allow for putting up hay for the winter so I guess that is summer pasture. I love my 14' offset disc. It does a terrific job but as the ground is sandy or loomy it seems to turn the soil to powder fast. Then, it sets up in a couple months or so. As far as no till ideas... I am afraid I already tilled the soil with the disc so I will remember that advice for next time. I think I made my decision I will use a pasture grass type mix instead of alfalfa because it is just too hard and chancy to make alfalfa grow in my area. I do talk to the local farmers and one I trust said his way is to plant one field at a time per season and if it don't work you don't lose all your fields... but if it does work you curse the rest of the fields for a while. I might sound like I pick and choose my advice given but mainly with locals some are too reserved and soft spoken to say much, some wait till you do something and then say, "I coulda told you it wouldn't work", some are conservative on what to hope for on a crop and some say I should get much more than others say. It is kinda exciting to realize i need to really understand the person who makes the comment and then i can understand if he is 100 percent or 50 percent credible. One neighbor told me I can't grow alfalfa in one field and i asked why and he said cause it has never been done and no one was ever successful at it. Well, as I look around a mile radius I see alfalfa all over so why not in front of me? I know standing water tends to kill alfalfa whether established or not and frost kills or hurts growth .... so ANYWAY I gotta tell you guys I respect and appreciate all your replies I really do. I am learning as I go and I swear if there is alfalfa in the field next to mine I will make it happen on my field soon also. I do remember a comment of a cover crop and I gotta say I don't think that is a good idea on dry land cause i am told a cover crop which kicks in before the main crop competes for water from the main crop and I think in dry land that is not a good idea. But, I might be wrong i am only going what I was told by others. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again for all your replies and I am actually hoping to make a humble living on about 160 acres. I thought about a vegetable farm kinda like a u pick it, maybe also a trout farm and chicken farm and some pigs and a cow or two as much as I got steak sauce for. I know this is easier said than done but I hope to find out.</p><p></p><p></p><p>thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="noriko, post: 229013, member: 4128"] I think all you guys know what you are talking about and are correct and let me be the one to admit I still did not articulate my situation well enough for you folks to help me as I asked. So, I apologize for misleading some of you or making any generic remarks that are not true in other places. I got that remark I said about needing 1500 acres from my local John Deere shop. I think what was said to me was a minimum of 1500 acres to "make a living" not a profit and maybe it was said to me thinking of a family situation and in my particular case I refer to dry land as well as a short growing season due to cold spring weather so I am sorry I did not make this clear and I think it is my fault which generated any negative feelings so I take responsibility on that totally. My particular land in addition is a bit sandy and it seems to take a long time for anything to grow. I did talk to the local ag expert and was told on my land they suspect i can run a total of about one cow per two acres but I think that does not allow for putting up hay for the winter so I guess that is summer pasture. I love my 14' offset disc. It does a terrific job but as the ground is sandy or loomy it seems to turn the soil to powder fast. Then, it sets up in a couple months or so. As far as no till ideas... I am afraid I already tilled the soil with the disc so I will remember that advice for next time. I think I made my decision I will use a pasture grass type mix instead of alfalfa because it is just too hard and chancy to make alfalfa grow in my area. I do talk to the local farmers and one I trust said his way is to plant one field at a time per season and if it don't work you don't lose all your fields... but if it does work you curse the rest of the fields for a while. I might sound like I pick and choose my advice given but mainly with locals some are too reserved and soft spoken to say much, some wait till you do something and then say, "I coulda told you it wouldn't work", some are conservative on what to hope for on a crop and some say I should get much more than others say. It is kinda exciting to realize i need to really understand the person who makes the comment and then i can understand if he is 100 percent or 50 percent credible. One neighbor told me I can't grow alfalfa in one field and i asked why and he said cause it has never been done and no one was ever successful at it. Well, as I look around a mile radius I see alfalfa all over so why not in front of me? I know standing water tends to kill alfalfa whether established or not and frost kills or hurts growth .... so ANYWAY I gotta tell you guys I respect and appreciate all your replies I really do. I am learning as I go and I swear if there is alfalfa in the field next to mine I will make it happen on my field soon also. I do remember a comment of a cover crop and I gotta say I don't think that is a good idea on dry land cause i am told a cover crop which kicks in before the main crop competes for water from the main crop and I think in dry land that is not a good idea. But, I might be wrong i am only going what I was told by others. Thanks again for all your replies and I am actually hoping to make a humble living on about 160 acres. I thought about a vegetable farm kinda like a u pick it, maybe also a trout farm and chicken farm and some pigs and a cow or two as much as I got steak sauce for. I know this is easier said than done but I hope to find out. thanks [/QUOTE]
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