What do you think

[Craig Miller]

Im thinking about buying this one off my dad for a herd bull. What do you think? :hide: He is an angus cross, sire black angus, dam red angus cross. He is about 14 months.

Sorry about the small pics. Took then with my phone so I guess thats why they are little

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

Not much bull there.

 

[Isomade]

Not much bull there.

What he said

 

[Chris H]

Keep looking, this is not herdsire material.

 

[Taurus]

Hatchet butt...I say steer him!

 

[cow pollinater]

There's more wrong than right.

 

[Craig Miller]

Well not what i was hoping for but exactly what i wanted. Thanks for saving me some heartache down the road. Thanks chris for fixing my pics. How did you do it? I tried removing 'thumbs' from the url but it said it was too many pixels???

 

[Chris H]

Well not what i was hoping for but exactly what i wanted. Thanks for saving me some heartache down the road. Thanks chris for fixing my pics. How did you do it? I tried removing 'thumbs' from the url but it said it was too many pixels???[/quote}
The medium size pics have 'medium' in the url, here is one, http://ranchers.net/photopost/data/500/ ... bull15.jpg

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

And that folks is why people feed young bulls. That little bull is bad run down and needs some supplement.Still would not be a good bull but would look a lot better.

 

[Craig Miller]

That is why i joined here. Dad has had cows for about ten years. When i decided to get my own, i wanted to be better than the average cow man. Dad says you dont need anything but grass and a mineral block. Same thing his fil told him. He also let 2 calves die this last year because he didnt want to spend money or time to bottle them. Always looking for good advice

 

[Fire Sweep Ranch]

He also appears bold in the shoulder to me, which could lead to calving difficulties. I agree, not much there. He needs to be cut.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Sorry, but that "bull" would not make a quality steer.
Part of the problem is he's thin. But, being thin, we can see his skeletal shape and it's not very pretty!
It appears (and with your comments) your Dad is multiplying cattle, not breeding cattle.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Sorry, but that "bull" would not make a quality steer.
Part of the problem is he's thin. But, being thin, we can see his skeletal shape and it's not very pretty!
It appears (and with your comments) your Dad is multiplying cattle, not breeding cattle.[/quote]
nothing meant toward his dad,, but theres alot of that goes on here....but i swear the bull looks more gertish to me than red angus

 

[Limomike]

Sorry, but that "bull" would not make a quality steer.
Part of the problem is he's thin. But, being thin, we can see his skeletal shape and it's not very pretty!
It appears (and with your comments) your Dad is multiplying cattle, not breeding cattle.[/quote]
nothing meant toward his dad,, but theres alot of that goes on here....but i swear the bull looks more gertish to me than red angus[/quote]
That is exactly what I was thinking ALA.

 

[Craig Miller]

He goes to the sale barn monday along with two of my bulls. I agree jeanne, hes not multiplying very fast though with the attitude he takes on it. I had looked at this bull before winter and he was looking good. When i saw him yesterday i had to snap some pics to see what yall thought. He looked better when i saw him last in about august. Looks like he quit growing since then

 

[chippie]

hope that he sells well for you.

 

[Chris H]

He goes to the sale barn monday along with two of my bulls. I agree jeanne, hes not multiplying very fast though with the attitude he takes on it. I had looked at this bull before winter and he was looking good. When i saw him yesterday i had to snap some pics to see what yall thought. He looked better when i saw him last in about august. Looks like he quit growing since then

I went back to the pictures since I noticed something the first time. The cows & calves appear to be in good flesh, but that bull is thin. A good worming wouldn't improve his structure, but you'd probably have had more saleable weight on him. It only takes about 5 extra lbs on a cow to pay for a worming. A heavy worm load might take 3-4 wormings/year, but the payback is worth it.

 

[Taurus]

He goes to the sale barn monday along with two of my bulls. I agree jeanne, hes not multiplying very fast though with the attitude he takes on it. I had looked at this bull before winter and he was looking good. When i saw him yesterday i had to snap some pics to see what yall thought. He looked better when i saw him last in about august. Looks like he quit growing since then

I went back to the pictures since I noticed something the first time. The cows & calves appear to be in good flesh, but that bull is thin. A good worming wouldn't improve his structure, but you'd probably have had more saleable weight on him. It only takes about 5 extra lbs on a cow to pay for a worming. A heavy worm load might take 3-4 wormings/year, but the payback is worth it.

Well his father did said that they do only minerals and hay and nothing else...

 

[Craig Miller]

I think he does worm 1-2 times per year but with wormer pellets. No way to know how much each cow is getting. He just puts it out in the barn as a creep i guess. One cow could eat it all it if wanted too. Alfalfha based pellet so im sure that happens some

 

[djinwa]

Should be able to get top dollar if you hype him on Craigslist!

For educational purposes, you might want to know that if his sire was purebred black angus, he should be black, as the black gene dominates over red. In other words, a purebred black angus bull bred to a red cow should always throw black calves.

So the black sire of this bull got a red gene from somebody in past generations, or you don't really know who the sire was.