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<blockquote data-quote="ChrisB" data-source="post: 71214" data-attributes="member: 122"><p>The conditions you describe really aren't that uncommon at many yards. Not all have windbreaks or any type of shelter. I'm guessing it is only muddy in the spring and if it you get heavy rains right? I've seen many places where cattle are up to mud half-way to the knee this time of year and when it rains a lot. If it is seriously up to their bellies, that is totally different.</p><p></p><p>Also you mention that he feeds them whenever he gets around to it. Are you saying the cattle are going hungry for long periods of time, or does he always keep feed in front of them even though it may not be fresh?</p><p></p><p>Also I hate to admit it, but I rarely walk through my pens either. I always look them over after I feed, and if I don't see any with their ears drooped, head down, excessive coughing, snotty noses, etc. I forget about them until the next day.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to defend the guy, but what some people consider cruel treatment, may be the industry norm. Some people think it's cruel if animals are outside in the rain or snow, or have to drink out of a pond instead of a waterer. If these are truely horrible conditions I would call someone, otherwise maybe talk to other neighbors who raise cattle and see if they think the conditions warrant some action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ChrisB, post: 71214, member: 122"] The conditions you describe really aren't that uncommon at many yards. Not all have windbreaks or any type of shelter. I'm guessing it is only muddy in the spring and if it you get heavy rains right? I've seen many places where cattle are up to mud half-way to the knee this time of year and when it rains a lot. If it is seriously up to their bellies, that is totally different. Also you mention that he feeds them whenever he gets around to it. Are you saying the cattle are going hungry for long periods of time, or does he always keep feed in front of them even though it may not be fresh? Also I hate to admit it, but I rarely walk through my pens either. I always look them over after I feed, and if I don't see any with their ears drooped, head down, excessive coughing, snotty noses, etc. I forget about them until the next day. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but what some people consider cruel treatment, may be the industry norm. Some people think it's cruel if animals are outside in the rain or snow, or have to drink out of a pond instead of a waterer. If these are truely horrible conditions I would call someone, otherwise maybe talk to other neighbors who raise cattle and see if they think the conditions warrant some action. [/QUOTE]
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