Weaning 2019

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Almost done... we worked 253 calves yesterday thru the chute.

Of those worked, I was quite impressed with the scale as those Blackstone calves walked across. Some looked like they were yearlings. With that said, most were ugly. But he was a terminal bull for our program and I was grinning ear to ear, when they walked that scale. Hopefully they finish well. They had an average of nearly 100lbs over anything else. He was used on 1st/2nd calf heifers and we’re across the scale averages of 800+lbs! If you don’t mind ugly, these are the calves for you!

Phenotype, we only have 3 Quarterback calves and all 3 were quite easy on the eye. Beautiful and rightly muscled. We bred SAV America for a friend last night and discussed QB, we will be breeding to QB again. And this gentleman we bred for, helped us work calves yesterday and loved them also.

President. Still inconsistent. We have a lot more of him on the ground due to using him as a flush. Several had that Charlo influence and honestly, hurt our thoughts on him. It’s hard for us to see such a small frame and be ok with it. One of our favorites at birth who looked impressive was the least, yesterday.

Treasure. Nothing but love! Consistent all the way thru. The friend who helped us yesterday, actually changed his mind on his flush after seeing the Treasure calves and had us use him instead. We told him that Treasures have been good from birth to now. No ugly stages.

Epic. We used him heavily along with Blackstone on our 1st and 2nd calvers. We were also pleased with him and looks nice! Hopefully some of the PB calves we have come back clean but I’d use him again on terminal.

We also loved our Discovery calves. Those seemed more like sleepers. They really came into themselves.

Our Acclaims are stellar and probably our most excitable but that could be because we’re showing favoritism since they were our ET calves. Talk about muscling!

Used a lot more sires. Like Game Changer. Hoover Dam (son) Etc... but everything above stood out for one reason or another.

Once we get that data entered into cattlemax, I can give WW averages for groups. Will do adjusted. Our average days for group we worked yesterday was 213 days old.
 
TennesseeTuxedo said:
Sounds like a great day.

What makes you say the Blackstone calves are ugly? Do you have some pics?

I can get you some pics. If I could describe Blackstone in just a few words... too much growth. I could probably count chins. Disproportionate. But I’ve never seen heifers wean 800+ lbs calves.
 
It has to be so exciting to see enough of one sire to make a good honest opinion. With my 50 head herd, I sample a lot of different bulls and can see what I like, but not the same as having 15-20 calves (or lots more) by one sire. Something I will never be able to do.
Weights like that from heifers are GREAT!!!
 
TennesseeTuxedo said:
“Too much growth”, hmmm....

I’ll take that problem.

It’s a nice problem to have. I’ll have actual numbers I can report once it’s moved into cattlemax. It’ll adjust those to 205 and make it a fair comparison amongst the sires we used.

I’ll report the sire and number of head in the averages.
 
Is President that inconsistent in frame size? I was thinking of using Rainfall down the road, but I don’t have any desire to give up frame. Do you find he’s reducing certain pedigrees or is it just a crap shoot.
 
CreekAngus said:
Is President that inconsistent in frame size? I was thinking of using Rainfall down the road, but I don’t have any desire to give up frame. Do you find he’s reducing certain pedigrees or is it just a crap shoot.

I feel so. I can look at pedigrees but most of the Pres we have in this group is from a flush. We’ve been flushing her for 8 years. She is a sim. You don’t flush junk or if you do, you don’t do it that long, lol. She’s made more money on progeny than anything on this place.

If you talk to my neighbors, they praise Pres. Feel he’s the “most consistent” out of anything they’ve bred. But they also love the Charlo influence. We were not huge fans of their Pres daughters. Some were extremely long and had a lot of frame. My favorite was the smallest because it looked more uniform. So, I would not call their top 5 consistent either but if I was going to buy a Pres daughter, they’d be who I’d buy from.

Bred a few heifers to rainfall this year. I’m loving what I see from Rainfall progeny but people only put up their best. So I dunno.

I’m blunt. No smoke here. And I expect the same from others if they’re eyeing mine.
 
If you’re worried about frame size being too small with Rainfalls, use Raindance. All of ours are slightly larger than the Presidents. I’d be surprised if Rainfalls are like the Raindance calves in frame size.
Raindances have all been super consistent
 
LCBulls said:
If you’re worried about frame size being too small with Rainfalls, use Raindance. All of ours are slightly larger than the Presidents. I’d be surprised if Rainfalls are like the Raindance calves in frame size.
Raindances have all been super consistent

Have your Presidents? I know you’ve liked them. Have they been consistent for you?
 
NEFarmwife said:
LCBulls said:
If you’re worried about frame size being too small with Rainfalls, use Raindance. All of ours are slightly larger than the Presidents. I’d be surprised if Rainfalls are like the Raindance calves in frame size.
Raindances have all been super consistent

Have your Presidents? I know you’ve liked them. Have they been consistent for you?

We’ve liked most of them. There’s a few that are not as good as we’d have hoped. I think some of them were on Dams that were below average. We did breed our best cow to him and he’s been a little disappointing. He did get sick as a young calf though.
The Raindance calves are all at the top of our herd. Most were ET sexed heifer Embryos. Some of the best young heifers we’ve ever had.
If I had to pick between President and Raindance I’d breed most to Raindance.
We just did another flush to President last week though.
 

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