upset of the day--so far.

[greybeard]

#6 USC goes down to Stanford.
Auburn is done for this year, losing to LSU badly.
A&M wins another one

 

[js1234]

it's starting to look like that will be the second most significant upset today.

 

[greybeard]

Maybe..
Alabama has pulled within 13 pts with about 6 minutes to go. 43-30

 

[wacocowboy]

Bama goes down. Where is the D in college these were suppose to be two of the best Ds yet we have 80 points on the board. UCLA and BYU are in a tight game.

 

[bball]

Bama goes down. Where is the D in college these were suppose to be two of the best Ds yet we have 80 points on the board. UCLA and BYU are in a tight game.

Did you see UCONN v.Mizz....6-9..couldn't tell if D was that good or O was that bad :???:

 

[wacocowboy]

Bama goes down. Where is the D in college these were suppose to be two of the best Ds yet we have 80 points on the board. UCLA and BYU are in a tight game.

Did you see UCONN v.Mizz....6-9..couldn't tell if D was that good or O was that bad :???:

No I didn't see that game just the score and the int to end the game. My guess would be that the O was that bad, but I dunno.

 

[TexasBred]

Bama goes down. Where is the D in college these were suppose to be two of the best Ds yet we have 80 points on the board. UCLA and BYU are in a tight game.

Offense is the word of the day now. And too many rules have been changed to benefit the offense.

 

[greybeard]

Them's some ugly stats on both D and O and for both teams. Almost as if both teams tried hard not to win.

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/9/20/93589 ... y-very-sad

 

[Jogeephus]

Last night

 

[greybeard]

You got to watch a good one Joe, and the Bulldogs will undoubtedly move up in the rankings with 'bama's loss, tho the UGA/SC was a complete mismatch with a Top 25 unranked opponent. Prior to yesterday's games, Georgia was ranked #5 and SC was ranked #42 in the Top 128.
Might as well get the 2015 trash talk started. :lol:
This was a Tier 1 team (top 6) against a Tier 4 team (#35-49).
It was definitely a cupcake game, but it did make Georgia did look awful good especially Lambert (24 of 25 pass completions) BUT, before this game, he had passed for less than 150 yards in any of his 2015 games. This was not a good or accurate game indicator of Ga's offensive strength, but more an example of their defensive strength and SC's lack of offensive abilities. They should have, were expected to win big and did, but I am very surprised SC was able to score 20 pts on a top 5 team.
:hide:

 

[Alan]

As always things are beginning to shake out a bit from those, always ridiculous, preseason predictions. The top pic out of the PAC 12, USC, looked terrible. Here's hoping Sark is feeling the hot seat. Bama isn't done losing this year, but this week they will only fall to 6 or 7 in the polls. Ohio state will lose at least one this year. The Ducks will lose two more if they don't get their defense fixed, particularly their DB's.

The question is who #1 this week? Ohio St? LSU? Ole Miss? Someone else?

 

[wacocowboy]

Alan add TCU to those teams that will lose some games.

 

[bball]

Alan add TCU to those teams that will lose some games.

A loss to Texas Tech maybe? Their offense looks really sharp when it's clicking. Will have to find some defense to hang with TCU...I enjoy watching the red raiders though.

 

[bball]

Alan, I believe the question is will anyone survive the SEC without a loss. LSU looks strong, what Ole Miss did was amazing, and Georgia shouldn't have a worry until conf championship...but SEC always seems to do a number on itself from within

 

[greybeard]

As always things are beginning to shake out a bit from those, always ridiculous, preseason predictions. The top pic out of the PAC 12, USC, looked terrible. Here's hoping Sark is feeling the hot seat. Bama isn't done losing this year, but this week they will only fall to 6 or 7 in the polls. Ohio state will lose at least one this year. The Ducks will lose two more if they don't get their defense fixed, particularly their DB's.

The question is who #1 this week? Ohio St? LSU? Ole Miss? Someone else?

Yep, the Buckeyes only winning over #78 (tier 6) by 7 pts has got to cast a bit of doubt over their program this year--at least for this week anyway.

Same can easily be said for TCU. Thru 3 qtrs, #110 SMU (a tier 7 nobody) played TCU surprisingly close. Should have been a cupcake game for the Horned Frogs, and the final score does look like it, but the game did not. So far TCU is allowing 20 pts/game so they better gel together-- Red Raiders are next on their schedule and their last 2 games are against Okla and Baylor. .

LSU looked to be the strongest and best balanced team of the games I watched. The remainder of their schedule is a mixed bag, with the next 5 being fairly weak teams:
Syracuse
Eastern Michigan
South Carolina
Florida
Western Kentucky
Alabama
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Texas A&M

 

[greybeard]

The question is who #1 this week? Ohio St? LSU? Ole Miss? Someone else?

Answered:

AP Top 25

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan State
3 TCU
4 Ole Miss
5 Baylor
6 Notre Dame
7 Georgia
8 LSU
9 UCLA
10 Florida State
11 Clemson
12 Alabama
13 Oregon
14 Texas A&M
15 Oklahoma
16 Arizona
17 Northwestern
18 Utah
19 USC
20 Georgia Tech
21 Stanford
22 Wisconsin
22 BYU
24 Oklahoma State
25 Missouri

(Source, in case M starts screaming for "Accounting-accounting!!--there must be accounting!!" ) :lol:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... n-teams-12

 

[TexasBred]

As always things are beginning to shake out a bit from those, always ridiculous, preseason predictions. The top pic out of the PAC 12, USC, looked terrible. Here's hoping Sark is feeling the hot seat. Bama isn't done losing this year, but this week they will only fall to 6 or 7 in the polls. Ohio state will lose at least one this year. The Ducks will lose two more if they don't get their defense fixed, particularly their DB's.

The question is who #1 this week? Ohio St? LSU? Ole Miss? Someone else?

Yep, the Buckeyes only winning over #78 (tier 6) by 7 pts has got to cast a bit of doubt over their program this year--at least for this week anyway.

Same can easily be said for TCU. Thru 3 qtrs, #110 SMU (a tier 7 nobody) played TCU surprisingly close. Should have been a cupcake game for the Horned Frogs, and the final score does look like it, but the game did not. So far TCU is allowing 20 pts/game so they better gel together-- Red Raiders are next on their schedule and their last 2 games are against Okla and Baylor. .

LSU looked to be the strongest and best balanced team of the games I watched. The remainder of their schedule is a mixed bag, with the next 5 being fairly weak teams:
Syracuse
Eastern Michigan
South Carolina
Florida
Western Kentucky
Alabama
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Texas A&M

What does Tier 4,5,7 etc mean? I've heard of Divisions but never tiers. Help me out here.

 

[SJB]

Let's keep in mind that the rankings you are using to determine "cupcakes" was pulled out of thin air three weeks ago.

 

[greybeard]

No--cupcake was determined by this last week's power rankings (as they stood just prior to this weekend's games)

Tiers are just a way to differentiate the teams that are either ranked top 5 or have a good chance of making the top 5, 25 etc from all the also rans. It keeps ya from saying a small school that absolutely plays nobody should be highly ranked simply because they are undefeated or only lost one game--like Marshall was last year (Finished the year 13-1).

(This is FBS top 128 power rankings as of yesterday (Saturday) morning)
Tier 1: Contenders
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Oregon
4. Baylor
5. Georgia
6. TCU

Tier Two (could be contenders with a couple of good happenstances.)
7. Ole Miss
8. Auburn
9. UCLA
10. LSU
11. Michigan State
12. Oklahoma
13. USC
14. Arkansas
15. Arizona State
16. Stanford
17. Florida State

Tier 3--could easily move into top 10 if things go right for them and/or wrong for someone else.
18. Tennessee
19. Georgia Tech
20. Notre Dame
21. Wisconsin
22. Louisville
23. Mississippi State
24. Clemson
25. Virginia Tech
26. Boise State
27. Missouri
28. Nebraska
29. Michigan
30. Texas A&M
31. Penn State
32. BYU
33. Miami
34. Arizona

Tier 4: A couple will play at a top-25 level
35. Oklahoma State
36. Pitt
37. Florida
38. Texas
39. Minnesota
40. Cincinnati
41. Kansas State
42. South Carolina
43. Utah
44. West Virginia
45. NC State
46. Navy
47. Iowa
48. North Carolina
49. Maryland

Tier5--top 30-40 is their goal & where they usually find themselves in power rankings.
50. Kentucky
51. Western Kentucky
52. California
53. Marshall
54. Rutgers
55. Georgia Southern
56. Central Florida
57. Northwestern
58. Washington State
59. Colorado State
60. Duke
61. Virginia
62. Memphis
63. Western Michigan
64. Utah State
65. Temple
66. East Carolina
67. Houston
68. Texas Tech
69. Boston College
70. Colorado
71. Arkansas State
72. Louisiana Tech
73. Toledo
74. Rice

Tier6--Power rankings dead weight.
75. Indiana
76. San Diego State
77. Air Force
78. Northern Illinois
79. Illinois
80. Washington
81. UL-Lafayette
82. Appalachian State
83. Purdue
84. Middle Tennessee
85. Tulane
86. Old Dominion
87. UTEP
88. Oregon State
89. South Alabama
90. Iowa State
91. Bowling Green
92. Akron
93. New Mexico

Tier 7-everybody else
94. Vanderbilt
95. San Jose State
96. Tulsa
97. Ball State
98. Wake Forest
99. Syracuse
100. Texas State
101. Nevada
102. Florida Atlantic
103. Fresno State
104. UL-Monroe
105. Florida International
106. Ohio
107. Wyoming
108. Buffalo
109. Kansas
110. SMU
111. Idaho
112. Central Michigan
113. Southern Miss
114. Massachusetts
115. South Florida

Tier 8--they would have the toughest road to travel to get to top 5 based on schedule and power factors.

116. Hawaii
117. Kent State
118. Army
119. Troy
120. Connecticut
121. Miami (Ohio)
122. North Texas
123. UNLV
124. Georgia State
125. Eastern Michigan
126. New Mexico State
127. UTSA
128. Charlotte

 

[Alan]

Bama fell further than I thought they would. Stanford handles USC and are still ranked two spots below them. My Ducks beats up a big cupcake and falls a spot...... Okay I can understand that one. I do think LSU the team to beat in the SEC. Also at the very early point in the season I have to pull for Michigan St, the better they do the better the Ducks look....... And the Ducks need a lot of work. :?