UPDATE here is a sick calf.

[CandJs_home]

<Update5/6/08>
Got the calf into the vet today. Decided I did not like not knowing what was wrong with the calf so payed the vet to school me. I figure in the long run maybe that bit of knowledge will help me? anyway I have payed allot more to learn allot less.

Long story short fever was 103.8 vet says larynx was scarred and had phnemonia LA200 Should have knocked it out as our dose and duration was correct. On the Larynx with just a little bit of pressure you can close the airway off. Vet shot her up with Nuflor an antihistamine and Banamine brought home a couple of doses of nuflor and Banamine do either of them need to be refrigerated? (have not googled that yet) Basically the Banamine will be if i see her getting in a bad way I will give her a shot and then have her put down. In the mean time she is back out on the pasture and eating good moving around etc so we will give it a couple of days and see.

I appreciate all the help and hints you folks through my way I am certainly in the midst of folks who know more than I. :tiphat:
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Well after alot of time lurking here unfortunately hoping I Have something to post. Brought home a few new calves last week and did our normal check and quarantine and watch em to try and see how they are (mainly watching for sick/crazy) anyhow I ended up with one who seemed like maybe she was coming down with pneumonia or shipping fever but after a full course of tylan 200 and now switching to LA-200 we dont know. I have a video of her below. No foaming at the mouth appetite is good and her fluid intake is ok she is licking the salt block and taking hay, and grazing before I penned her up. If I go check here in the morning's her respiration is almost normal. today its 80 out there and you can see her breaths are shallow and rapid. at least 2x what I would consider normal. thoughts? We wormed her with Ivermec just in case it was lung worms. Our thought now turn to well maybe she Had pneumonia and has scarred lungs and we just pick a bad one. But now we don't know. My partner and I have never seen a calf act like this so we figured we better get a vet out or risk loosing one. Whats really strange is she does not act sick. but sure does have a raspy breath.
here is the video of the calf direct link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG1ywnhIfI0

 

[angie1]

Our thought now turn to well maybe she Had pneumonia and has scarred lungs and we just pick a bad one.

This is what I am guessing as well. Watch these guys, they have a hard time in the heat. I had one that I pulled through, but he had to come in the barn in the heat of the day on very warm days. I also kept a dose of banamine in the frig (bought single syringe) in case he appeared to be in real distress.

 

[CandJs_home]

I am thinking not Anaplasmosis based on the appetite and the fact it really does not act sick actually the calf acts just like the rest of the cattle although it does slow down a bit once the breathing gets faster.

Banamine hmm that sounds like might not be a bad idea as the temps are only going to get worse. Thanks for the Idea!

Hopefully we can get the vet out here and will let you know what we come up with.

 

[dun]

Winter coat and temps higher then they have been, some calves are heavy breathers

 

[ALACOWMAN]

• >>>I am thinking not Anaplasmosis <<

based on the appetite and the fact it really does not act sick actually the calf acts just like the rest of the cattle although it does slow down a bit once the breathing gets faster.

Banamine hmm that sounds like might not be a bad idea as the temps are only going to get worse. Thanks for the Idea!

Hopefully we can get the vet out here and will let you know what we come up with.

im thinking not too... but its sure is fighting for air, your wasting money on LA 200 . keeping the calf a little above going down. it needs a hard hitter to knock it out . something like nuflor time is critical with SF the longer it takes the more damage.

 

[CandJs_home]

it needs a hard hitter to knock it out . something like nuflor time is critical with SF the longer it takes the more damage.

Sorry Whats SF?

Update Vets are booked for farm calls this week the earliest is next week! But they think they have an opening for me to bring her into town. this afternoon or tomorrow. Just waiting on a call back with the Appt.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

it needs a hard hitter to knock it out . something like nuflor time is critical with SF the longer it takes the more damage.

• Sorry Whats SF?

Update Vets are booked for farm calls this week the earliest is next week! But they think they have an opening for me to bring her into town. this afternoon or tomorrow. Just waiting on a call back with the Appt.

shippin' fever...

 

[ROB]

...laryngeal form of diptheria? i had an older calf in the feedlot that developed streneous breathing. he still had an appetite, but he wasn't eating as good as he should have been. his ears were up, no coughing, temp was ok...just breathing laborously. gave him a shot of banamine to reduce the swelling and all was well. good luck in determining the problem.

ROB

 

[TheBullLady]

I'm casting my vote for pnuemonia as well. Neither of the medications that you've been giving it are going to help in my opinion.
Either Baytril or Mycotil or Draxxin are what I would suggest, all of which have to be prescribed by a vet.

Good luck!

 

[ALACOWMAN]

I'm casting my vote for pnuemonia as well. Neither of the medications that you've been giving it are going to help in my opinion.
Either Baytril or Mycotil or Draxxin are what I would suggest, all of which have to be prescribed by a vet.

Good luck!

right on...and be extremely careful with the mycotil are you might wind up takin' a dirt nap

 

[somn]

I believe you are thinking right she isn't ill she is a lunger if she is a free martin I would sale barn her asap and take your beating anything you get will be cheaper than the $30.00 you will spend for the dead truck. I've fed enough holstiens thru the feedlot to know a lunger holstien will die you can pour thousands of dollars of medicine and feed into one and the only thing you will acomplish is extending there miserible life. It will appear they are getting better but they don't stay healthy long enough for most withdrawl times and you will need to treat again. They can not recover as well from lung damage as colored cattle in the same condition. So even if it is a breeder I would peddle the animal. Warmer moist air is usually the start to the end for lunger holstiens.

 

[CandJs_home]

Vet shot her up with Nuflor an antihistamine and Banamine brought home a couple of doses of nuflor and Banamine do either of them need to be refrigerated? (

Nuflor does not need to be refrigerated based on what I read although I did find some websites that claim it will keep better. But since I only have a couple of doses it does not matter. Same goes for Banamine but that I will throw in the fridge until I need it

 

[milkmaid]

Neither banamine nor Nuflor need to be refrigerated. Keep at room temp.

I've spent plenty of money having animals worked on that I would have been better off to just shoot... but the knowledge you gain is invaluable. I always chalk it up to another lesson learned; like "calf scours 101", "IVs 200", "basics of shipping fever", etc. Hauled a calf to my vet back in December and spent more money than I really wanted to... simply because I wanted to learn how to IV calves. I can run IVs on dehydrated calves now, and that's pretty well priceless to me. You may not save every sick animal you own, but always try to learn from every one of them.