Unrolling Hay / Shelf Life

Cropper

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Had a questions for those of you that unroll their hay. What is the shelf life of a bale of hay once unrolled? In other words how many days after a bale of hay is unrolled before it spoils / weathers / looses quality?

Currently we practice rotational crazing and set out 3-4 bales in each paddock/lot and simply drop an electric fence and let them have at the hay then repeat once finished. Allows us to put out several weeks worth of hay at once just move the cattle to the hay when needed. Works but they over consume and wait a lot. I want to try the same moving of cattle but having the hay already unrolled between each movement.

So how long can an unrolled bale of hay sit in the ground before it goes bad? Assuming no rain…
 
We unroll 99% of our hay and I'd say 2 maybe 3 days. Might be different if the cattle couldn't touch it though. The weather is pretty hard on the hay once it's unrolled.
 
We unroll 99% of our hay and I'd say 2 maybe 3 days. Might be different if the cattle couldn't touch it though. The weather is pretty hard on the hay once it's unrolled.
 
I know some folks who windrow their hay and never roll it up. They just move electric fence on their hay meadows as the cows clean up the windows. This is in grass meadows and dry climate though.
 
We are feeding 25 heifers with hay 2 rings right now. We've unrolled a few bales for them but they can't eat it all and end up sleeping on it. The mess from those rings is already driving me crazy. They aren't wasting too much but them standing there all day is making a mess of the ground. Unrolling everyday is a job but I doubt I'll ever go back to anything different. I'm thinking about just unrolling what I think the heifers will eat everyday.
 
@Cropper, #1... put your location in your profile, so we know where you're operating. Always helpful when giving advice.

It all depends... Yup... the normal answer. I assume you're considering the same thing as "swath grazing"... or as @GoWyo stated "windrow grazing". It's commonly practiced where weather won't be an issue... arid regions (@GoWyo's comment), or areas of Canada where it will be cold enough to preserve the quality of the swathed forages. If you deal with much for over-the-winter rains, or melting snow, it'll not keep well through those times. So in your case, where you're considering unrolling bales to do the same, you'd just have to "time" your unrolling according to anticipated weather events... maintaining adaptability.

That's what I've done here in SE MN too. I used to regularly unroll up to a week, even a week-and-a-half's worth (10 days or so), if the weather was going to hold. And sometimes I'd unroll before a short duration snowstorm, so I wouldn't have to go out there while it was bad. However, I didn't use polywire to limit graze them across the swaths... I was just letting them have at them for that amount of time. I'd just use my unrolling schedule to control how they function relative to the hay being fed. That's because I "learned" how to maintain that control that way... and I was quite pleased with that system, compared to "bale grazing", which is what I had been doing prior to this. Pic taken in January of '21.

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Since then however, I've pretty well "migrated" to every day unrolling though, for the most part. I'm not entirely opposed to unrolling several days worth at a time, if I will have to be going somewhere... but I PREFER to unroll daily.

Probably the first reason for that is to properly address whatever resource concerns I have... By unrolling daily, I react to what they have done the previous day... there's a spot over there that needs some residue laid down on it... there's a cowpath that I want to get covered up... there's a small ditch over there that I want to get some residue on before the spring melt... there's going to be a strong wind and I want them to be able to be behind that grove over there for protection... there's NOT going to be a strong wind, so I'll feed where there's NO protection, that fence over there might get buried in snow later... I'd better feed there now while I still can without the cattle going out over that fence, and then I'll just keep them away from that area once the snow buries it, etc. You can't "adapt" or be as "responsive" to things coming your way, if you don't have as much "flexibility" to do that built into your system... so "daily" vs. "weekly" can make alot of difference here.

My second reason for preferring to unroll daily is (again) that I can "adapt" to how the cattle are eating what I'm putting out there. Cold weather... they may need more. Warm days, they might prefer to be grazing the remaining stockpile and so they won't eat the hay as much... I might have to cut DOWN on how much I'm giving them or skip a day... or I might change the type of hay that I'm choosing (like 1st crop vs. 2nd crop, etc.). Again, it's flexibility to adapt to observed changes.

Third would be waste of feed value, but this is probably my least concerning point. I don't view residue left out there as waste... but I DO want to minimize it... or maybe it'd be better to say I want to "limit it" to what I view as an appropriate level. And that then also depends... on weather conditions, the quality of the feed you're giving them, the number of animals and density that you've stocked them at, and even WHERE you're feeding them at the time... if it's windy, and you feed them "behind the grove"... they're going to stack up in the least windy areas, and over-apply their manure there... So it still comes down to the ability to always be able to adapt to changing conditions. They wasted "too much"... I have to adapt how I'm feeding them accordingly.

I can't imagine ever preferring to go back to bale grazing instead of unrolling. If you don't need a whole bale, you don't have to unroll a whole bale... just pick it up and go home... go back out again later when they need more, and finish unrolling. You can do this with a 3 pt. unroller, or one on the front end loader like I have, or with a Hustler/Tubeline, or a bale processor (I kind of listed those in ascending order according to overhead cost... I very much like that I have mine out in front of me, on my front end loader... I can see where I'm going, can always be looking forward, and it gives me more flexibility to get into places I maybe otherwise couldn't, like unrolling into some fairly difficult "ditches" to "repair them", etc. Lately I've been feeding some poor quality 1st crop that they don't like so much... so I take one of those, and then one 2nd crop bale out at the same time (2nd bale carried on my 3 pt.). I unroll the 1st crop in as long a swath as I can, then turn around and unroll the 2nd crop bale over the top of it... they blend the two together as they eat throughout the day, and they end up cleaning up the 1st crop better that way. I "adapt". Because I have it mounted out in front of me... and on my loader... I'm able to just barely touch that 2nd crop bale down enough so that it'll unroll... so I can control how fast it unrolls that way... it's actually spinning SLOWER than my ground speed a bit... If I need to unroll even slower, I can pick it up and set it down as needed... kind of in a "dotted line" pattern... works out really nicely. Being behind the bale, up high in the tractor cab, looking forward OVER THE TOP OF THE BALE (I also used this unroller on my tracked skid loader... but you're down so low that you can't see over the bale), I can see what I want to accomplish and get that done "just right". I couldn't do that as easily if the unroller were mounted on the 3 pt.................they don't give you quite as many benefits in function..., but those can work too.... and for the money, they're pretty hard to beat. You could have it mounted just the opposite way from what I have then too... extra bale carried on the loader out front, with the unroller on the back. One advantage maybe that way would be that you'd always have your bale spear on the loader for bale work... I have to take my unroller off and put the spear on (it has a skid loader QT, so that's not at all difficult... just a couple of hoses and pull the latches).
 
Sorry Wester OK. Windy and Dry. Only rain we get come from BIG thunderstorms, so we get a months worth of rain in :30 minutes then nothing….
 
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@Cropper, #1... put your location in your profile, so we know where you're operating. Always helpful when giving advice.

It all depends... Yup... the normal answer. I assume you're considering the same thing as "swath grazing"... or as @GoWyo stated "windrow grazing". It's commonly practiced where weather won't be an issue... arid regions (@GoWyo's comment), or areas of Canada where it will be cold enough to preserve the quality of the swathed forages. If you deal with much for over-the-winter rains, or melting snow, it'll not keep well through those times. So in your case, where you're considering unrolling bales to do the same, you'd just have to "time" your unrolling according to anticipated weather events... maintaining adaptability.

That's what I've done here in SE MN too. I used to regularly unroll up to a week, even a week-and-a-half's worth (10 days or so), if the weather was going to hold. And sometimes I'd unroll before a short duration snowstorm, so I wouldn't have to go out there while it was bad. However, I didn't use polywire to limit graze them across the swaths... I was just letting them have at them for that amount of time. I'd just use my unrolling schedule to control how they function relative to the hay being fed. That's because I "learned" how to maintain that control that way... and I was quite pleased with that system, compared to "bale grazing", which is what I had been doing prior to this. Pic taken in January of '21.

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Since then however, I've pretty well "migrated" to every day unrolling though, for the most part. I'm not entirely opposed to unrolling several days worth at a time, if I will have to be going somewhere... but I PREFER to unroll daily.

Probably the first reason for that is to properly address whatever resource concerns I have... By unrolling daily, I react to what they have done the previous day... there's a spot over there that needs some residue laid down on it... there's a cowpath that I want to get covered up... there's a small ditch over there that I want to get some residue on before the spring melt... there's going to be a strong wind and I want them to be able to be behind that grove over there for protection... there's NOT going to be a strong wind, so I'll feed where there's NO protection, that fence over there might get buried in snow later... I'd better feed there now while I still can without the cattle going out over that fence, and then I'll just keep them away from that area once the snow buries it, etc. You can't "adapt" or be as "responsive" to things coming your way, if you don't have as much "flexibility" to do that built into your system... so "daily" vs. "weekly" can make alot of difference here.

My second reason for preferring to unroll daily is (again) that I can "adapt" to how the cattle are eating what I'm putting out there. Cold weather... they may need more. Warm days, they might prefer to be grazing the remaining stockpile and so they won't eat the hay as much... I might have to cut DOWN on how much I'm giving them or skip a day... or I might change the type of hay that I'm choosing (like 1st crop vs. 2nd crop, etc.). Again, it's flexibility to adapt to observed changes.

Third would be waste of feed value, but this is probably my least concerning point. I don't view residue left out there as waste... but I DO want to minimize it... or maybe it'd be better to say I want to "limit it" to what I view as an appropriate level. And that then also depends... on weather conditions, the quality of the feed you're giving them, the number of animals and density that you've stocked them at, and even WHERE you're feeding them at the time... if it's windy, and you feed them "behind the grove"... they're going to stack up in the least windy areas, and over-apply their manure there... So it still comes down to the ability to always be able to adapt to changing conditions. They wasted "too much"... I have to adapt how I'm feeding them accordingly.

I can't imagine ever preferring to go back to bale grazing instead of unrolling. If you don't need a whole bale, you don't have to unroll a whole bale... just pick it up and go home... go back out again later when they need more, and finish unrolling. You can do this with a 3 pt. unroller, or one on the front end loader like I have, or with a Hustler/Tubeline, or a bale processor (I kind of listed those in ascending order according to overhead cost... I very much like that I have mine out in front of me, on my front end loader... I can see where I'm going, can always be looking forward, and it gives me more flexibility to get into places I maybe otherwise couldn't, like unrolling into some fairly difficult "ditches" to "repair them", etc. Lately I've been feeding some poor quality 1st crop that they don't like so much... so I take one of those, and then one 2nd crop bale out at the same time (2nd bale carried on my 3 pt.). I unroll the 1st crop in as long a swath as I can, then turn around and unroll the 2nd crop bale over the top of it... they blend the two together as they eat throughout the day, and they end up cleaning up the 1st crop better that way. I "adapt". Because I have it mounted out in front of me... and on my loader... I'm able to just barely touch that 2nd crop bale down enough so that it'll unroll... so I can control how fast it unrolls that way... it's actually spinning SLOWER than my ground speed a bit... If I need to unroll even slower, I can pick it up and set it down as needed... kind of in a "dotted line" pattern... works out really nicely. Being behind the bale, up high in the tractor cab, looking forward OVER THE TOP OF THE BALE (I also used this unroller on my tracked skid loader... but you're down so low that you can't see over the bale), I can see what I want to accomplish and get that done "just right". I couldn't do that as easily if the unroller were mounted on the 3 pt.................they don't give you quite as many benefits in function..., but those can work too.... and for the money, they're pretty hard to beat. You could have it mounted just the opposite way from what I have then too... extra bale carried on the loader out front, with the unroller on the back. One advantage maybe that way would be that you'd always have your bale spear on the loader for bale work... I have to take my unroller off and put the spear on (it has a skid loader QT, so that's not at all difficult... just a couple of hoses and pull the latches).

We have been doing the bale grazing but as I’ve said they leave a lot behind.

Since I have to travel for work I need to be able to leave up to a weeks worth of hay out then have help simply drop the poly wire to let them in.

It sounds like the main concern with keeping spoilage down is possible weather changes. We don’t get snow like y’all and if we do it’s a big event for us. Wind is our deal, even unwrapped bales will be blown apart after sitting a few days in strong winds.

I appreciate the input, leaning on pulling the trigger on a hydraulic bale bed to do the job.
 
Dry it should be good for a few days maybe even a week as long as they can’t get to it. Wet and muddy it is done in a couple hours. Also once they have been thru it walking on it and doing their bathroom business it is near impossible to get them to clean up much. Mine get fed every 24 hours but do 90% of their eating in the first 4-6 after that they are just picking.
 
We have been doing the bale grazing but as I've said they leave a lot behind.

Since I have to travel for work I need to be able to leave up to a weeks worth of hay out then have help simply drop the poly wire to let them in.

It sounds like the main concern with keeping spoilage down is possible weather changes. We don't get snow like y'all and if we do it's a big event for us. Wind is our deal, even unwrapped bales will be blown apart after sitting a few days in strong winds.

I appreciate the input, leaning on pulling the trigger on a hydraulic bale bed to do the job.

We live just below a mountain pass and the wind here is pretty bad, I've watched the cows take off running to catch the hay that I just unrolled for them - I refer to that as fast food. If you live in a windy area, it's hard to tell where the hay will be when they need it if you have rolled out a week's worth.

Our first Hydrabed was one of the best investments I've made for our place. Even if I sold all the cows, I'd keep one around just for the other uses. Highly recommend them. We've owned a couple of the parallel DewEze beds but didn't care for them. I wouldn't mind to try one of their pivot beds, but just not keen on the electronic controls - the cables are so much smoother.
 

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