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<blockquote data-quote="Brute 23" data-source="post: 1805620" data-attributes="member: 6291"><p>I just don't see it in the real world. For all the cell cams I have running over feeders 24/7, 365 and time I spend around them, I have never seen any signs of that. In fact, rarely do I get a hen with a hatch at feeders. I do get gobblers or groups of jakes but they are spotty. That is real world, watching feeders all the time.</p><p></p><p>I would like to see their data on how frequent hens with hatches are visiting the feeders they monitor.</p><p></p><p>They claim the same thing about quail yet every feeder had a very large, healthy, covey next to it this past year. Context goes a long way. A feeder with inadequate cover can hurt the quail. A feeder with adequate cover can help the quail.</p><p></p><p>If we have one feeder per 250-500 ac. A feeder feeds 2 sacks per week for 6 mo and 1 sack per week for 6 mo. If you break that down to two feeding per day it's #7@2 and #3.5@1, per feeding. In order, deer frequent the most, followed by hogs, then turkey. Hogs get shot off feeders pretty quick. Turkey mainly come through after every thing else and clean up the little pieces the others can't get and they are not consistent when they show up. They may be there 3 days and not be back for a month.</p><p></p><p>With that real world info, I don't see that being enough feed to totally change the life of two groups of animals, who aren't even the primary users of feeders.</p><p></p><p>Even then, I go back to looking at other factors. Do you just have a predator problem in general where they are hitting your turkey, your fawns, and every thing else? Wouldn't deer be on the same decline since they frequent feeders even more often?</p><p>How are hogs increasing from feeders and turkey decreasing? Coyotes love baby pigs also.</p><p></p><p>Not a lot of consistency there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brute 23, post: 1805620, member: 6291"] I just don't see it in the real world. For all the cell cams I have running over feeders 24/7, 365 and time I spend around them, I have never seen any signs of that. In fact, rarely do I get a hen with a hatch at feeders. I do get gobblers or groups of jakes but they are spotty. That is real world, watching feeders all the time. I would like to see their data on how frequent hens with hatches are visiting the feeders they monitor. They claim the same thing about quail yet every feeder had a very large, healthy, covey next to it this past year. Context goes a long way. A feeder with inadequate cover can hurt the quail. A feeder with adequate cover can help the quail. If we have one feeder per 250-500 ac. A feeder feeds 2 sacks per week for 6 mo and 1 sack per week for 6 mo. If you break that down to two feeding per day it's #7@2 and #3.5@1, per feeding. In order, deer frequent the most, followed by hogs, then turkey. Hogs get shot off feeders pretty quick. Turkey mainly come through after every thing else and clean up the little pieces the others can't get and they are not consistent when they show up. They may be there 3 days and not be back for a month. With that real world info, I don't see that being enough feed to totally change the life of two groups of animals, who aren't even the primary users of feeders. Even then, I go back to looking at other factors. Do you just have a predator problem in general where they are hitting your turkey, your fawns, and every thing else? Wouldn't deer be on the same decline since they frequent feeders even more often? How are hogs increasing from feeders and turkey decreasing? Coyotes love baby pigs also. Not a lot of consistency there. [/QUOTE]
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