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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 78446" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>Dun, yours must be older than dirt - I haven't even seen one that isn't hard plastic on the insertion end.</p><p>We have two different ones. The one I use is the hard plastic tube (with the blue ball on the end) attached directly to a hard plastic bottle. I bend the tube in half right at the bottle connection & can hold the bottle & tube in one hand & insert the tube - no milk can flow until I unfold the bottle & tube. </p><p>My husband uses a stainless steel probe with several feet of plastic hose attached to a hard bottle. He can set the bottle on the ground, insert the tube, than pick the bottle up high enough to get the milk flowing. Way to hard for me to hold my arm up in the air while holding a calf.</p><p></p><p>Also, a comment on a calf laying down. Sometimes it's near impossible not to do it while they are laying down, BUT, it's not so much the problem of getting it into the wrong place, as it is that the pressure on their stomachs can make the milk "back up" into the lungs. At least, that's what I have been told.</p><p>Ken's big & can get their head up between his knees even if their butts sitting on the ground & get get it done that way if they can't stand. Not me, most of the calves weigh 2/3 my weight & get knock me over. I usually do it in a corner of the pen where I can grab onto the feeder or gate to brace myself, plus I back their butts up into the corner to keep them corraled.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 78446, member: 968"] Dun, yours must be older than dirt - I haven't even seen one that isn't hard plastic on the insertion end. We have two different ones. The one I use is the hard plastic tube (with the blue ball on the end) attached directly to a hard plastic bottle. I bend the tube in half right at the bottle connection & can hold the bottle & tube in one hand & insert the tube - no milk can flow until I unfold the bottle & tube. My husband uses a stainless steel probe with several feet of plastic hose attached to a hard bottle. He can set the bottle on the ground, insert the tube, than pick the bottle up high enough to get the milk flowing. Way to hard for me to hold my arm up in the air while holding a calf. Also, a comment on a calf laying down. Sometimes it's near impossible not to do it while they are laying down, BUT, it's not so much the problem of getting it into the wrong place, as it is that the pressure on their stomachs can make the milk "back up" into the lungs. At least, that's what I have been told. Ken's big & can get their head up between his knees even if their butts sitting on the ground & get get it done that way if they can't stand. Not me, most of the calves weigh 2/3 my weight & get knock me over. I usually do it in a corner of the pen where I can grab onto the feeder or gate to brace myself, plus I back their butts up into the corner to keep them corraled. [/QUOTE]
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