I run in common with a bigger outfit. They have posted some calves that have died. It came back they have toxcitiosos. They don't seem concerned as they are in the oil business, but this summer those sick calves infected a lot of my calves and I lost a bunch. Can I do anything before turn out to help my calves? We run in rough country so trying to find every calf that is infected is tough. The university that ran the test said that it is ground born and not water born. Any ideas I've lost to many this summer to deal with this again.
Toxicitiosos
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greybeard
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He Probably does--I've heard people call it toxidia before too.ricebeltrancher":fkgt2dyy said:
inyati13
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There are several articles on coccidiosis. To get what will help you, google "treatment of coccidiosis in cattle". It will begin by telling you that it is caused by a coccidiana protozoan of the genus Eimeria that causes bloody scours and recommend treatment. Here is a reference to treatment:
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vetext/lo ... diosis.pdf
The life cycle involves feces containing the oocysts that contaminate the ground and continue to infect cattle (particularly damp shady areas). Some of the references give procedures for a total effort to control the disease. You will benefit from reading the suggested programs.
Here is another reference: http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/digesti ... attle.html
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vetext/lo ... diosis.pdf
The life cycle involves feces containing the oocysts that contaminate the ground and continue to infect cattle (particularly damp shady areas). Some of the references give procedures for a total effort to control the disease. You will benefit from reading the suggested programs.
Here is another reference: http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/digesti ... attle.html
Thanks for the info. I'm glad to learn it is referred to by different names. I hope they will get it under control. The owner just doesn't want to do anything because he can't sell them as natural. I believe I'd rather have live calves come weaning time. Natural of not.
cross_7
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None of this so far has made since to me.
You say you run cattle out on rough country that is big enough you can't find and treat all of them and lost a bunch and you are having trouble with coccidiosis, which is not the typical environment for it and now feet trouble also
Could you provide more information please ?
You say you run cattle out on rough country that is big enough you can't find and treat all of them and lost a bunch and you are having trouble with coccidiosis, which is not the typical environment for it and now feet trouble also
Could you provide more information please ?
Sure. We run on a forest allotment. Our turn on date is June 1st. The cows prior to turn out are fed and confined in a alfalfa clover mix field from May 1st to the turn on date. My cows are not even close to this cow herd until June 1st. They don't doctor all their sick calves then turn out to go to the mountain. I see these sick calves on the trail to the mountain. They are shitting blood and look like they are starving to death. I know they have it in their corrals or in that pasture cause that's where they first see it every year. The calves with bad feet are the calves we doctor with sulfa and they live but are just not right. I'm just relaying what they tell me. I do know they have it cause they posted some and that's what the results came back with. But like I say I'm relaying what they tell me.
cross_7
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Shadscale":387t3bee said:
You don't state your location but your cows are on alfalfa/clover for 30 days prior to turn out on mountain pasture.
I assume the cows are fine and your just having trouble with the calves
Any chance the feet problems are related to founder from being on the alfalfa/clover, I'm surprised your not having a bloat problems.
I'm guessing the source of the coccidiosis is from the water source shared with neighbors cattle, but the feet problem has me stumped.
The loss of a "bunch" of claves at todays prices would cause me considerable distress
I guess the water sources are ponds, creeks and streams so it would be impossible to treat the water sources
I don't know the numbers but I would try to treat all cattle via water or feed with Amprolium
I'm not to good typing all I want to say. My cows and calves are about 50 miles away from this herd until we start to the summer range. I don't graze the pasture with them. They do have bloat problems even with the bloat guard they put out. I'm just pretty upset like you say any death loss is no good. They run 800 head of mother cows I've got 200hd and my brother in law runs 80 hd on this allotment. In years past they've had some good cowboys that doctored and tried to keep them alive. But they moved on and this year they really had lazy cowboys that didn't try to much. And yes it is just the calves that are getting it.
Shadscale":t8tqg7mu said:
Sounds like you are between a rock and a hard place(literally) Do you own a piece of this grazing permit. If not it sounds like it might be a good time to look for some different pasture. If it was me i'd also be worried about Trich with that outfit!
They have been good to run with up til this year. The ranch is for sale so that might be some of the problem. We will see just how many we've lost in a month at weaning. Thanks for all the info. 3 way cross, where in colorado are you in?
I know Shane well. They were balancers and they've been good cows. Bought a few bulls as well. I wish he'd go back to Gelbvieh instead of the Simms.But that's just me. I like the fact they are high elevation cattle. He does well.
