Touchy feely

backhoeboogie

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Tomorrow I will sit in a room with several other engineers for a whole day of touchy feely. Here we are, a bunch of left brain thinkers, who are A quadrant dominant (I go off their charts) trying to get in touch with our right brain and C quadrant. None of us could give a rats about our C quadrant, which is emotional. (I barely make it on the chart there).

The entire day will be a waste and we are all dreading it. Why do companies do this to us?
 
backhoeboogie":ptuxasv4 said:
Tomorrow I will sit in a room with several other engineers for a whole day of touchy feely. Here we are, a bunch of left brain thinkers, who are A quadrant dominant (I go off their charts) trying to get in touch with our right brain and C quadrant. None of us could give a rats about our C quadrant, which is emotional. (I barely make it on the chart there).

The entire day will be a waste and we are all dreading it. Why do companies do this to us?

Your company bringing in outside company?
 
backhoeboogie":16bjh1c5 said:
Tomorrow I will sit in a room with several other engineers for a whole day of touchy feely. Here we are, a bunch of left brain thinkers, who are A quadrant dominant (I go off their charts) trying to get in touch with our right brain and C quadrant. None of us could give a rats about our C quadrant, which is emotional. (I barely make it on the chart there).

The entire day will be a waste and we are all dreading it. Why do companies do this to us?

Boogie...you can't live that good outdoor life all the time...gotta get in there and inhale some asbestos and for lack of a better word "B.S.".
 
backhoeboogie":1uld7437 said:
Tomorrow I will sit in a room with several other engineers for a whole day of touchy feely. Here we are, a bunch of left brain thinkers, who are A quadrant dominant (I go off their charts) trying to get in touch with our right brain and C quadrant. None of us could give a rats about our C quadrant, which is emotional. (I barely make it on the chart there).

The entire day will be a waste and we are all dreading it. Why do companies do this to us?

What's the subject going to be?
 
Hubby is attending a 4 day course right now called choices, it is about stress management.. If he could turn his d@mn phone off once and awhile that would eliminate a lot of stress... :roll:

So instead of going out on jobs making some scratch he is sitting in a hotel conference room listening to a bunch of B.S..

That is the problem with society today , the younger generation could give a cr@p and the middle generation is too fricken worried about hurting someones feelings..waaaaaa, my boss yelled at me, waaaaaa. Deal with it and learn how to work so your boss doesn't have to yell at you because you won't be screwing up all the time...
 
hillsdown":tmval7k6 said:
That is the problem with society today , the younger generation could give a cr@p and the middle generation is too fricken worried about hurting someones feelings..waaaaaa, my boss yelled at me, waaaaaa. Deal with it and learn how to work so your boss doesn't have to yell at you because you won't be screwing up all the time...

Amen!
 
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hillsdown":cvw17w87 said:
Hubby is attending a 4 day course right now called choices, it is about stress management.. If he could turn his d@mn phone off once and awhile that would eliminate a lot of stress... :roll:

So instead of going out on jobs making some scratch he is sitting in a hotel conference room listening to a bunch of B.S..

That is the problem with society today , the younger generation could give a cr@p and the middle generation is too fricken worried about hurting someones feelings..waaaaaa, my boss yelled at me, waaaaaa. Deal with it and learn how to work so your boss doesn't have to yell at you because you won't be screwing up all the time...
I am proud to inform you that you are the winner of a 100% free beverage of your choice at the newrancher bar and grill for your short essay. :clap:
 
Been there done that BHB. What a complete waste of time. Took all those tests and someone went off and scored them. they came back in and started calling names for each quadrant. Then all the same quadrant folks went to their corners of the room. I was the only one left sitting. :o

Finally the score guy asked me to stand and said I had the highest score he had ever recorded in my quadrant (don't remember which one it was). He did tell everyone that is wasn't necessarily a bad thing. :lol2:

Got my plaque, went back to work the next day and filed it in the round filing cabinet on the floor. :secret:
 
Call in sick, Boogie! Tell them your A quadrant is in conflict with your C quadrant and the voices just won't stop!

Seriously, I can't imagine a more useless, boring day...I hate that kind of stuff.

Alice
 
BHB, been there, done that - twice, in my 41 years of company service plus a whole host of other seminars that the company spent tons of money on for nothing.

Went to one where the whole engineering group was required to attend - for three days. It was called "Value Engineering" which was designed to getting you to think outside the box. We were divided in to teams and each team was assigned a project to redesign some widget to meet certain criteria, cost, function, reliability, customer satisfaction, etc. My team was assigned "bull plugs", a device that is used to seal the end of a pressure housing and to prevent differential sticking in the borehole. We spent about $12M/year on bull plugs over about 50 different designs for only three different housing sizes. What a target rich environment, right? We did our thing, made our presentation at the end of the conference and then the VP of engineering got up to make the closing where he said "forget all this BS and get back to work". Makes you wonder what the heII we were doing there in the first place.

Run with the left brain/right brain thing and you will learn why some folks always carry a spare can of gas around with them (they are not very trusting - don't believe their gas gauge). I don't know why you would want to know that kind of stuff but ..... :lol:
 
backhoeboogie":14anxe7y said:
Tomorrow I will sit in a room with several other engineers for a whole day of touchy feely. Here we are, a bunch of left brain thinkers, who are A quadrant dominant (I go off their charts) trying to get in touch with our right brain and C quadrant. None of us could give a rats about our C quadrant, which is emotional. (I barely make it on the chart there).

The entire day will be a waste and we are all dreading it. Why do companies do this to us?

Oh heck - just go and have fun - argue with the presenter and listen to His/her reasons why you are arguing!

Bez+
 
My husband and I are both high C's. Makes for interesting arguments.

I used to hate attending training. We used to do a thing called QAIS, which was a quality assurance thing for delivery of mental retardation services. You had to go to people's homes and interview them using their questions to determine whether their quality of life was good enough, according to the state, not according to the people you talked to. If wasn't good enough to have someone tell you they were happy. It was, "Are you happy enough? Would you like to be more happy?"

Well he77, everyone would like to be more happy! And how is MHMR going to make you more happy? Just absolute crap. No matter how you did it, it was wrong.

Do you have enough friends? Would you like more?

Again, what are we supposed to do about that?

Do you have intimate relationships? Would you like more?

Oh yeah, I could just imagine how MHMR was supposed to manage that! Isn't that illegal? And once more, who wouldn't?

That is what happens when the state tries to quantify someone's quality of life.
 
skyline":3ix3qoil said:
Is anybody else thinking "Dilbert"?

That writer must have worked with me some time in the past.

We survived. This one wasn't as bad as previous ones.

What was revealed to me? Management doesn't understand where we are, as a group, in our interdependence. We hold more records than I care to count. We continually do things that, "Can't be done." You'd think management would just leave well enough alone.

The REAL issue is we are all receiving lucrative offers from other companies and we lose talent on a weekly basis.

I picked up four good books to read and played with some kiddie toys :D
 
backhoeboogie":3kg2jfez said:
skyline":3kg2jfez said:
Is anybody else thinking "Dilbert"?

That writer must have worked with me some time in the past.

We survived. This one wasn't as bad as previous ones.

What was revealed to me? Management doesn't understand where we are, as a group, in our interdependence. We hold more records than I care to count. We continually do things that, "Can't be done." You'd think management would just leave well enough alone.

The REAL issue is we are all receiving lucrative offers from other companies and we lose talent on a weekly basis.

I picked up four good books to read and played with some kiddie toys :D

I think you should invite your management team over to work cattle with you one Saturday morning. They'd gain a lot better understanding of who you are. :tiphat:
 
skyline":3ie8ovvn said:
I think you should invite your management team over to work cattle with you one Saturday morning. They'd gain a lot better understanding of who you are. :tiphat:

One of them actually runs cattle.

The rest of them? Naw. I have more respect for my cows than that :D
 
backhoeboogie":2g02l4yt said:
I picked up four good books to read and played with some kiddie toys

Sounds to me that the class was a success and money well spent! You did, after all, get in touch with your inner child! :lol2:
 
Jogeephus":2zrvyqza said:
backhoeboogie":2zrvyqza said:
I picked up four good books to read and played with some kiddie toys

Sounds to me that the class was a success and money well spent! You did, after all, get in touch with your inner child! :lol2:

This one wasn't so bad.

The worse one I remember was about '95 when the group I was with then had to come up with a mission statement. There were about 35 of us and at least 30 were some of the most high strung folks I have ever worked with. We finally got a break about 9:30 a.m. and we were outside on a sidewalk. Just before we got out of that room, one of the facilitators said, "What I think I hear you saying is this" and wrote a mission statement up on the board. We all looked at each other pretty dumbfounded and everyone said, "No." So we are standing out side and one old engineer said, "We may as well sign on to that statement, and get the heck out of here. Management wants them to manipulate us into that statement." I remember saying, "No way. They wouldn't do that"

By 2:30 that day we would have signed anything. Just put it in front of us and let us get out of here. The mission statement hanging on the wall was about two verbs different than the one written up at 9:30 and every one of us had our signature all over it in a frame.

That old engineer had the foresight and I still don't believe they did that to us. The whole ordeal was pretty detrimental to the scope they were trying to achieve.
 
I used to have to go to a bunch of training. Usually at least once a month. What got me was many of the people who taught the training was clueless as to what our jobs involved and I suspect they were teaching us because they had been promoted to their highest level of incompetence.

The best training I ever went to was on "body landguage" and "horse trading". This guy came from outside the organization and was really good. At the end of the meeting he divided us up in groups and gave each group $90. You were to use this money in a sales scenario he laid out. I forgot how it went but each group did not know the other's position. I walked out with $170 in my pocket and actually did learn something. Oh - he let us keep the money too!! :banana:
 
backhoeboogie":1ofp1ir0 said:
By 2:30 that day we would have signed anything. Just put it in front of us and let us get out of here. The mission statement hanging on the wall was about two verbs different than the one written up at 9:30 and every one of us had our signature all over it in a frame.

Sounds a lot like a successful interrogation. :lol2:
 

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