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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 140387" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>Don't give me any good old days nonsense. Most of the nation's cow herd 30 years ago were toadly little easy fleshing trouble free cows that gave a calf to sell every year. No thought was given to feedlot performance or final yield. The stuff that was winning shows 40-60 years ago would be USDA Small jokes in any stockyard today and their influence was still painfully evident in the nation's cow herds 30 years ago! Down here there was more straight brahman cattle than there are now. </p><p></p><p>Over the last 30 years we have gained weaning weight, have gotten rid of a lot of toads, we have less dairy influence cattle to deal with (sadly part of that is because we drink sugared water instead of milk), we had gotten too big and headed back towards moderation. Have dealt with excessive birth weights and endured new cattle fad after new cattle fad. At the end of the day I think there is no question that cattle are better now that at any time in this nation's history (as much as I would rather see more whitefaced cattle) and certainly better than they were 30 years ago. </p><p></p><p>Do we still have problems? Yes, we have more "hobby" cattle floating around than probably ever before, a more mongrelized cowherd that is harder to make decisions for, we still have a problems with overfat cattle, inefficient moosie cattle, lite muscling cattle, reproductive efficiency problems, BVD losses, and you could spend a day sorting all the flat ribbed, screw toed, coarse shouldered, splay toed, weak topped, or just plain structurally incorrect cattle out of a typical stockyard in the fall. I can certainly find fault with A LOT of today's cattle and I will admit we have ruined a lot of good herds by piss poor management and selection; but on the WHOLE I think the cattle are BETTER now than in 1995, 1985, or 1975 and it is very hard to lay the problems in the nation's herd at the feet of EPDs given that many of the worst herds I see aren't using any sires with EPDs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 140387, member: 2095"] Don't give me any good old days nonsense. Most of the nation's cow herd 30 years ago were toadly little easy fleshing trouble free cows that gave a calf to sell every year. No thought was given to feedlot performance or final yield. The stuff that was winning shows 40-60 years ago would be USDA Small jokes in any stockyard today and their influence was still painfully evident in the nation's cow herds 30 years ago! Down here there was more straight brahman cattle than there are now. Over the last 30 years we have gained weaning weight, have gotten rid of a lot of toads, we have less dairy influence cattle to deal with (sadly part of that is because we drink sugared water instead of milk), we had gotten too big and headed back towards moderation. Have dealt with excessive birth weights and endured new cattle fad after new cattle fad. At the end of the day I think there is no question that cattle are better now that at any time in this nation's history (as much as I would rather see more whitefaced cattle) and certainly better than they were 30 years ago. Do we still have problems? Yes, we have more "hobby" cattle floating around than probably ever before, a more mongrelized cowherd that is harder to make decisions for, we still have a problems with overfat cattle, inefficient moosie cattle, lite muscling cattle, reproductive efficiency problems, BVD losses, and you could spend a day sorting all the flat ribbed, screw toed, coarse shouldered, splay toed, weak topped, or just plain structurally incorrect cattle out of a typical stockyard in the fall. I can certainly find fault with A LOT of today's cattle and I will admit we have ruined a lot of good herds by piss poor management and selection; but on the WHOLE I think the cattle are BETTER now than in 1995, 1985, or 1975 and it is very hard to lay the problems in the nation's herd at the feet of EPDs given that many of the worst herds I see aren't using any sires with EPDs. [/QUOTE]
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