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<blockquote data-quote="Randi" data-source="post: 1471607" data-attributes="member: 24883"><p>Ok, I will try to answer this. </p><p></p><p>1) makes sense. We are running quite enough cows to make a living off of it.</p><p></p><p>2) BUT, the reason we are breeding our own females, is that we have a VERY hard time finding the kind of females we want. First off, is finding the breeds we want. There are not a lot of Shorthorn x Angus heifers to be found. </p><p></p><p>Second....well, there isn't many people that are willing to sell the very best of their heifers off....</p><p><img src="https://s19.postimg.org/3mv5uo4s3/2017-05-22_001_2017-05-22_001_800x555.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://s19.postimg.org/ankj9h5wz/IMG_6952.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://s19.postimg.org/s0utomr0z/IMG_6541.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://s19.postimg.org/vx85kmjqb/IMG_6938.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>and 3rd I know the performance of my cows, I can choose what cows I deem the best and breed them to the bulls I want. And get the kind of heifers I want. I know their dams have good temperament, good udders, good feet and good performance, and consistently calve in the first cycle. And I find that the heifers that we raise, generally produce bigger calves, and almost always stay in the herd longer.</p><p></p><p>3) by breeding the bottom end cows.... I am talking cows that have conformation issues (ie. poor feet, poorer udders), cows that calve in the second cycle, or that bounce around a bit. And cows that don't consistently produce a high performance calf, or that are on the bottom of the average. I believe a lot of people would think my bottom end cows are pretty good... We weaned, and sold most of our steer calves Oct 13, those 91 steers, born March and April, and a couple of May calves averaged 630 lbs. Then we weaned and sold our Char heifer calves on Oct 27. The 60 or so heifers we sold, averaged 609 lbs. </p><p></p><p>4) I believe you asked why not Charx cows? Well, we have some, we bought a few that we got a deal on, and they are good cows. But, I find that as a general rule those Char cows are 200+ lbs heavier than our British based herd. I like cows in the 1300-1400 lb range, but the lightest of the Char cows is 1450 lbs. And another reason for not using the Charx replacements, is that I don't have to worry about maternal traits when I buy bulls. We just look at BW, CE and WW on the Char bulls. Where with the Red bulls we are looking for those traits, but also milking ability and maternal traits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Randi, post: 1471607, member: 24883"] Ok, I will try to answer this. 1) makes sense. We are running quite enough cows to make a living off of it. 2) BUT, the reason we are breeding our own females, is that we have a VERY hard time finding the kind of females we want. First off, is finding the breeds we want. There are not a lot of Shorthorn x Angus heifers to be found. Second....well, there isn't many people that are willing to sell the very best of their heifers off.... [img]https://s19.postimg.org/3mv5uo4s3/2017-05-22_001_2017-05-22_001_800x555.jpg[/img] [img]https://s19.postimg.org/ankj9h5wz/IMG_6952.jpg[/img] [img]https://s19.postimg.org/s0utomr0z/IMG_6541.jpg[/img] [img]https://s19.postimg.org/vx85kmjqb/IMG_6938.jpg[/img] and 3rd I know the performance of my cows, I can choose what cows I deem the best and breed them to the bulls I want. And get the kind of heifers I want. I know their dams have good temperament, good udders, good feet and good performance, and consistently calve in the first cycle. And I find that the heifers that we raise, generally produce bigger calves, and almost always stay in the herd longer. 3) by breeding the bottom end cows.... I am talking cows that have conformation issues (ie. poor feet, poorer udders), cows that calve in the second cycle, or that bounce around a bit. And cows that don't consistently produce a high performance calf, or that are on the bottom of the average. I believe a lot of people would think my bottom end cows are pretty good... We weaned, and sold most of our steer calves Oct 13, those 91 steers, born March and April, and a couple of May calves averaged 630 lbs. Then we weaned and sold our Char heifer calves on Oct 27. The 60 or so heifers we sold, averaged 609 lbs. 4) I believe you asked why not Charx cows? Well, we have some, we bought a few that we got a deal on, and they are good cows. But, I find that as a general rule those Char cows are 200+ lbs heavier than our British based herd. I like cows in the 1300-1400 lb range, but the lightest of the Char cows is 1450 lbs. And another reason for not using the Charx replacements, is that I don't have to worry about maternal traits when I buy bulls. We just look at BW, CE and WW on the Char bulls. Where with the Red bulls we are looking for those traits, but also milking ability and maternal traits. [/QUOTE]
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