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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 19160"><p>Interesting reading. I reckon Angus & Longhorns are both here to stay, but for distinctly different reasons.</p><p></p><p>I don't have a dog in this fight but a few items come immediately to mind after reading Dianne's post and Frankie's response:</p><p></p><p>If Grant really was the first to import Angus, in the 1870's, then I guess you could say the earlier post from Dianne was incorrect when it made reference to Hereford, Shorthorn and Angus importation in the early part of the 20th century – it would of course be the later part of the 19th century. Perhaps the passage from Dianne's source should have read something like "in the early part of the 20th century and the later part of the 19th century purebred Angus stock became available to fit the needs of literally all rank & file commercial ranchers rather than being limited to the wealthy and those with close ties to the original importers" ???</p><p></p><p>As to "breeding up" --- what do you suppose Grant bred those four bulls to in 1873 and the next few years? Surely he didn't just feed them until the later importation of Angus cows. Maybe all were bred to straight Herefords or Shorthorns already in America, but I rather doubt it. Is it not very likely that there was a good bit of F1 breeding to Longhorn or similar type cattle and then again to their progeny before the later importation of sufficient numbers of purebred Angus cows?</p><p></p><p>I imagine the current AAA set of rules are quite a bit more restrictive than was the case in the late 1800's and the early 1900's. If my memory serves me correctly it wasn't until 1889 or 1890 that the earliest form of the AAA adopted the black only rule, but I imagine that by that time there could have quite a large number of cattle that were solid black and polled, but that had been bred up from other breeds including Longhorns.</p><p></p><p>Have a nice weekend all --- Arnold Ziffle</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 19160"] Interesting reading. I reckon Angus & Longhorns are both here to stay, but for distinctly different reasons. I don’t have a dog in this fight but a few items come immediately to mind after reading Dianne’s post and Frankie’s response: If Grant really was the first to import Angus, in the 1870’s, then I guess you could say the earlier post from Dianne was incorrect when it made reference to Hereford, Shorthorn and Angus importation in the early part of the 20th century – it would of course be the later part of the 19th century. Perhaps the passage from Dianne’s source should have read something like “in the early part of the 20th century and the later part of the 19th century purebred Angus stock became available to fit the needs of literally all rank & file commercial ranchers rather than being limited to the wealthy and those with close ties to the original importers” ??? As to “breeding up” --- what do you suppose Grant bred those four bulls to in 1873 and the next few years? Surely he didn’t just feed them until the later importation of Angus cows. Maybe all were bred to straight Herefords or Shorthorns already in America, but I rather doubt it. Is it not very likely that there was a good bit of F1 breeding to Longhorn or similar type cattle and then again to their progeny before the later importation of sufficient numbers of purebred Angus cows? I imagine the current AAA set of rules are quite a bit more restrictive than was the case in the late 1800’s and the early 1900’s. If my memory serves me correctly it wasn’t until 1889 or 1890 that the earliest form of the AAA adopted the black only rule, but I imagine that by that time there could have quite a large number of cattle that were solid black and polled, but that had been bred up from other breeds including Longhorns. Have a nice weekend all --- Arnold Ziffle [/QUOTE]
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