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For those without a Drovers acct I've cut and pasted this article from this months Drovers. I don;t know who this guy is but I'm just relieced to see that I'm not the only one that thinks that you have to develop heifers to work within your forage base.

Profit Strategies
Developing replacement heifers with staying power
By Pete Talbott (Friday, April 14, 2006)


Developing a heifer into a producing cow that functions well in your environment and utilizes the forage your ranch produces is not an easy task. The development of heifers can take several directions. For me, the most profitable method is to select those individuals that can perform under the resources their environment provides, even if it may seem somewhat ruthless.

How long will a highly developed heifer last in the herd? How well will this highly developed heifer breed back with her second calf without significant extra feed inputs? What impacts will high-energy development have on her ability to lactate to her genetic potential? A calculation we don't often reflect on is the loss derived after selling an open 2- or 3-year-old from the initial development and carrying cost of that 2- or 3-year-old.

While managing a cow-calf operation in the Great Basin (big open range), I discovered that I could get the heifers bred up very well on their first breeding, but subsequent breeding for their second and third calves was not as successful. The fall out at preg-check time was much greater than I wanted or could afford.

As I reviewed our options, I realized that we were feeding the young open heifer well (which was also expensive), but in subsequent years she had to make her living on our range conditions and some of the heifers were not holding up well. So, I decided that the heifers needed to grow and develop in the environment the ranch provides. Those individuals that couldn't perform needed to fall out earlier not later. It is a lot more profitable to sell a yearling open heifer than a thin 2- or 3-year-old open (yes there are other marketing options).

The first year was a little tough, mentally. We grazed the heifers all winter with supplemental protein to meet their needs. They gained about 0.3 pound per day from December until the end of March. The first of April they weighed about 530 pounds, and body-condition scores were in the mid-4s when they were turned out on started green grass. So, over the winter they put on frame and lost overall condition.

As the grass increased in strength and volume, they gained in leaps and bounds. The bulls were turned out in mid-May. In a 60-day breeding season, we consistently had pregnancy rates in the high 80s and low 90s. The preg rates were nearly the same as when we fed for higher winter gains. But we easily dropped our development costs by $125. Secondly, and in my mind more importantly, was that we developed a heifer that could handle herself under the conditions we were going to ask her to spend the rest of her life producing calves in.

In addition to winter cost savings, the heifers still weighed nearly the same at preg-check time (their summer gains were great) as their more highly developed sisters did in previous years. The preg rates of our second and third calf heifers increased significantly.

The bottom line is how you ask the question. In other words, many of us look at how we can increase the breed up of the last 5 to 10 percent by adding more inputs. Instead, I think we should be complimenting the majority of individuals that do breed under our conditions and let the ones that don't breed under our conditions fall out. By taking that philosophy, you will end up with a much more profitable and stable cow outfit in the end. So, I think the question should be why did 85 to 90 percent breed up so well? Not how do we get the last 10 to 15 percent to breed? Remember, this type of program will only work if you are calving on or near green up and selecting moderate- to small-frame cattle.

Managing the productivity of the entire cow herd, including the selection of the replacement heifers (without significant supplementation), will pay big benefits over time. This strategy requires thorough planning of your cow's biological clock and that of the forages.

For more thoughts, please give me a call.

Pete Talbott: 541-947-3482 John Nalivka: 541-473-4170 Land and Livestock Advisory Service http://www.land-livestock.com
 
thanks dun
You know I am intersted in this topic and you have been very helpful. Unfortunately I am a slow learner. the discussion here has me thinking again.
I can really see the $$$ in developing heifers. The last set I had I figured they cost $1025 to get a calf on the ground. That cost included the $$$ I would have gotten had I sold them at the same time as their herdmates.
I still wonder if a small investment of tiimely feeding could net an extra calf and then as long as the extra tlc doesn't cost more than the calf we would be money ahead. So I guess my real question is not whether the extra feed is worth it but rather WILL you get an extra calf??? I don't have any cattle over 12 so I have no experience.
 
Read this time and again from the "big guys" out west.

Notice he points out that they will supplement to meet their needs, based on what feed they are going to have available. He didn't say they get exactly the same as the cows, which might be the first conclusion one jumps to.

Man that would be tough having something that "looks" real good come up open and just automatically ship her. But thats what they say ya gotta do to be efficient.

Thanks once again dun. :)
 
George Monk":302kuoq4 said:
thanks dun
You know I am intersted in this topic and you have been very helpful. Unfortunately I am a slow learner. the discussion here has me thinking again.
I can really see the $$$ in developing heifers. The last set I had I figured they cost $1025 to get a calf on the ground. That cost included the $$$ I would have gotten had I sold them at the same time as their herdmates.
I still wonder if a small investment of tiimely feeding could net an extra calf and then as long as the extra tlc doesn't cost more than the calf we would be money ahead. So I guess my real question is not whether the extra feed is worth it but rather WILL you get an extra calf??? I don't have any cattle over 12 so I have no experience.

What I got out of it was over supplementing to develop heifers is what contributes to the requiremnt to supplemnt cows. Granted when there is a drought poor quality forage, a little supplemntation is/may be required. But relying on a feed sack to prop them up is a suckers game.

dun
 
I may be in the minority, but I don't like bulls developed on gain tests for the same reason. The best looking and one of the most expensive bulls I ever bought didn't look like the same animal after 90 days on fescue trying to breed just 15 heifers. The guy I bought him from said that I could have supplemented him to help him adjust. I shipped him and took the loss, but I learned a lesson.
 

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