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"Straw Chasers" Good or bad for the industry?
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<blockquote data-quote="Fire Sweep Ranch" data-source="post: 1208993" data-attributes="member: 18809"><p>See, here is what I do not get; like everyone from "old school" pasteing the simmental breed into the corner of being hard calvers (which they are not any longer), people paste show cattle in the corner of "bad real life cattle". Maybe, like Nesi said, shorthorns fall there but I can assure you that EVERY simmental heifer we have shown has come home and had babies. And most do a fantastic job of raising those calves, WITHOUT the expensive input of grain or supplements! Why does everyone automatically "assume" show genetics are bad? Are there bad cattle out there that are shown and not produce? YOU BET! But are there commercial cattle out there that do not produce? YOU BET! I know in my small part of the world, every known breeder I have bought a heifer/cow from has stood behind their breeding, and if I had a problem they would make it right by replacing my money OR replacing the animal. Do you find that in a commercial setting? If you buy Sally cow at the barn, and she has a dead calf, are you getting your money back? I think not!</p><p>Yes, we must feed grain for show, because the judge likes them conditioned (and some down right like them fat, which I am against). But not every heifer makes it to the show string, the rest are left in the pasture, and developed on good grass, AI bred, and later sold as a bred or pair. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with taking your best stock, that YOU produced with a straw, and "displaying" it at fairs? NOTHING! And guess what? My kids are better because of it! My 18 year old makes good money on the side AIing cattle while in college! Guess what she asked for for Christmas???? Not clothes, not money, not junk, but her own AI box to carry in her truck so she does not have to borrow ours!!!! And guess what else? If am sending my 12 year old daughter to AI school this spring so she can learn the same skill. She will be a straw chaser too!</p><p>I live in Missouri, where fescue is king and about they only thing you can do with your land is raise cattle. My cattle are scale busters, with AND without grain. MY CATTLE, that I raise how I see fit. That I produce, with God's blessing, with a STRAW! I am not a grass fed program, I am a seedstook producer. People buy my cattle to produce their own cattle, and want the gains and carcass data I get on my cattle. See, because I chase the straw, I got data to back up my cattle. </p><p>So call me a straw chaser, because I am proud of what I have produced. Period. No bull need apply here...... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />op:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fire Sweep Ranch, post: 1208993, member: 18809"] See, here is what I do not get; like everyone from "old school" pasteing the simmental breed into the corner of being hard calvers (which they are not any longer), people paste show cattle in the corner of "bad real life cattle". Maybe, like Nesi said, shorthorns fall there but I can assure you that EVERY simmental heifer we have shown has come home and had babies. And most do a fantastic job of raising those calves, WITHOUT the expensive input of grain or supplements! Why does everyone automatically "assume" show genetics are bad? Are there bad cattle out there that are shown and not produce? YOU BET! But are there commercial cattle out there that do not produce? YOU BET! I know in my small part of the world, every known breeder I have bought a heifer/cow from has stood behind their breeding, and if I had a problem they would make it right by replacing my money OR replacing the animal. Do you find that in a commercial setting? If you buy Sally cow at the barn, and she has a dead calf, are you getting your money back? I think not! Yes, we must feed grain for show, because the judge likes them conditioned (and some down right like them fat, which I am against). But not every heifer makes it to the show string, the rest are left in the pasture, and developed on good grass, AI bred, and later sold as a bred or pair. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with taking your best stock, that YOU produced with a straw, and "displaying" it at fairs? NOTHING! And guess what? My kids are better because of it! My 18 year old makes good money on the side AIing cattle while in college! Guess what she asked for for Christmas???? Not clothes, not money, not junk, but her own AI box to carry in her truck so she does not have to borrow ours!!!! And guess what else? If am sending my 12 year old daughter to AI school this spring so she can learn the same skill. She will be a straw chaser too! I live in Missouri, where fescue is king and about they only thing you can do with your land is raise cattle. My cattle are scale busters, with AND without grain. MY CATTLE, that I raise how I see fit. That I produce, with God's blessing, with a STRAW! I am not a grass fed program, I am a seedstook producer. People buy my cattle to produce their own cattle, and want the gains and carcass data I get on my cattle. See, because I chase the straw, I got data to back up my cattle. So call me a straw chaser, because I am proud of what I have produced. Period. No bull need apply here...... :pop: [/QUOTE]
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