Stockpiling fescue

[tom4018]

How much nitrogen is needed per acre for stockpiling? Been suggested 90# per acre, the last couple years I only put 60#. Would I see more improvement with the 90#?

 

[ollie]

90# of acutal N?

 

[tom4018]

His comment was 90 units.
What is sugested?

 

[ollie]

I have no idea but that seems like alot to me. I would think 60 would be plenty but I don't have any data or research. For tillerization in seed production I have heard the number of 50 units in the fall and 100 in the spring.

 

[dj]

This is quoteing Rob Kallenbaugh an MU forage specialist.
Addressing Aug application of N to boost winter stockpile.

The amount of nitrogen to apply dpends on the soil depth and water holding capacity of the soil under the pasture. The MU pasture has deep fertile soil. We put on 80 lb.s per acre on good soils. In the Ozarks we would cut that back to 40 lb.s per acre.

 

[dun]

The amunt you use also depends on how much clover you have. Too much N will damage your clover even if it's done in the fall. We're going to use 30 lbs per acre this year, never have had to in past years but we're hoping the N will help to recover some from the drought

dun

 

[ollie]

The amunt you use also depends on how much clover you have. Too much N will damage your clover even if it's done in the fall. We're going to use 30 lbs per acre this year, never have had to in past years but we're hoping the N will help to recover some from the drought

dun

I am using 44 lbs.

 

[J. T.]

I generally use 60 lbs/acre. This fescue with no clover with it.

 

[dun]

The amunt you use also depends on how much clover you have. Too much N will damage your clover even if it's done in the fall. We're going to use 30 lbs per acre this year, never have had to in past years but we're hoping the N will help to recover some from the drought

dun

I am using 44 lbs.

It was recommended (not by the fertilizer dealer) to use 30-40 lbs and it wouldn;t hurt the clover. Since this is the first time we've ever had to put anything on to get the fall growth I decided to be conservative and see if it did any real good at all.

dun

 

[ollie]

I made my amount up out of thin air. No data , no ascs, no recomendation.

 

[dun]

I made my amount up out of thin air. No data , no ascs, no recomendation.

If we didn;t have as much clover they recommended 60-90 lbs per acre depending on the type of soil, or what we laughingly call soil.

dun

 

[denoginnizer]

Is clover really worth all the trouble? I mean it hampers you on what chemical you can and cant spray it hampers you on how much fertilizer you can and cant put out. It is a bloat concern. I feel like clover is dictating my farming practices. I sometimes wonder if clover really saves as much money in fertilizer expenses as it cost me in hand tying my other farming practices.

 

[dun]

Is clover really worth all the trouble? I mean it hampers you on what chemical you can and cant spray it hampers you on how much fertilizer you can and cant put out. It is a bloat concern. I feel like clover is dictating my farming practices. I sometimes wonder if clover really saves as much money in fertilizer expenses as it cost me in hand tying my other farming practices.

We doin;t use the clover as a fertilizer component. It may contribuate some, but it's primary value is to dilute the endophyte in the fescue. We have pastures that run well over 50% clover and haven;t had bloat problems. The cows graze thrugh the clover the same way they graze the grass'.
I agree it's a hinderance at times, but you need to weigh which is the most beneficial, having the clover or killing it along with the weeds.

dun