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<blockquote data-quote="Stocker Steve" data-source="post: 838141" data-attributes="member: 1715"><p>No sub soiling around here and I only know one bachelor farmer who has tiled. The high level of rocks compared to the value of farm land discourages this much management. I think a pasture renovator would work on improved pastures where the rocks have been picked for 90 years, and I will get a quote on the H&K style.</p><p></p><p>I have some virgin leased pasture that is mostly blue grass. Not the highest production but it really holds up to cattle.</p><p></p><p>I seeded about 80% of the deeded ground I bought to a meadow/tall fescue mix and the rest to a reed canary mix. It should have been mostly reed canary. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> With the heavy soil, and the wet years recently, the fescue just does not fill in and legumes dround out in the swales. I am not sure if we are too far north and/or the fescue is too improved, but the stands here are not impressive after 3 to 5 years.</p><p></p><p>I am really interested in the tillage radish approach on high ground. I will run some numbers to see if I can justify a manure application and a summer plowing (if it is dry enough by then) for an August planting, to prepare a seed bed for next year. I don't look forward to all the inputs but I can see the sward productivity dropping off even though I have really increased soil fertility.</p><p></p><p>This area seems like it wants to grow quack grass, timothy, and reed canary - - so reed canary is the best sod grass option. Some people complain about how stemmy it gets and how it does not grow in the fall, but it works for me with 4 or more grazings per year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stocker Steve, post: 838141, member: 1715"] No sub soiling around here and I only know one bachelor farmer who has tiled. The high level of rocks compared to the value of farm land discourages this much management. I think a pasture renovator would work on improved pastures where the rocks have been picked for 90 years, and I will get a quote on the H&K style. I have some virgin leased pasture that is mostly blue grass. Not the highest production but it really holds up to cattle. I seeded about 80% of the deeded ground I bought to a meadow/tall fescue mix and the rest to a reed canary mix. It should have been mostly reed canary. :( With the heavy soil, and the wet years recently, the fescue just does not fill in and legumes dround out in the swales. I am not sure if we are too far north and/or the fescue is too improved, but the stands here are not impressive after 3 to 5 years. I am really interested in the tillage radish approach on high ground. I will run some numbers to see if I can justify a manure application and a summer plowing (if it is dry enough by then) for an August planting, to prepare a seed bed for next year. I don't look forward to all the inputs but I can see the sward productivity dropping off even though I have really increased soil fertility. This area seems like it wants to grow quack grass, timothy, and reed canary - - so reed canary is the best sod grass option. Some people complain about how stemmy it gets and how it does not grow in the fall, but it works for me with 4 or more grazings per year. [/QUOTE]
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