Springin

[9 ER]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

 

[SF]

8 months or so, sometimes 8 1/2.

 

[la4angus]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

You should notice her springing around 9 mo. or so.

 

[rgv4]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

If you know what you are looking for, at 5 to 6 months bred you will notice the teats and bag have dropped some.

 

[brokenmouth]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

If you know what you are looking for, at 5 to 6 months bred you will notice the teats and bag have dropped some.

on some of them maybe. not on all of them

 

[Caustic Burno]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

If you know what you are looking for, at 5 to 6 months bred you will notice the teats and bag have dropped some.

Man thats good calf weighs about ten pounds at that stage.


Days of Length Identifying Characteristics
Stage Gestation Weight inches
I 30 1/100 oz. 2/5 One uterine horn slightly enlarged and thin;
embryonic vesicle size of small marble. Uterus in
approximate position of nonpregnant uterus. Fetal
membranes may be slipped between fingers from
30 to 90 days.
45 1/8-1/4 oz. 1-1 1/4 Uterine horn somewhat enlarged, thinner walled
and prominent. Embryonic vesicle size of small egg.
60 1/4-1/2 oz. 2 1/2 Uterine horn 2 1/2 to 3 1/2” in diameter; fluid filled.
Fetus size of mouse.
90 3-6 oz. 5-6 Both uterine horns swollen (4 to 5” in diameter).
Fetus is size of rat. Uterine artery 1/8 to 3/16” in
diameter. Cotyledons 3/4 to 1” across, but very soft.
II 120 1-2 lb. 10-12 Similar to 90-day but fetus more easily palpated.
Fetus is size of small cat with head the size of a
lemon. Uterine artery 1/4” in diameter. Cotyledons
more noticeable and 1 1/2 inches in length. Horns
are 5 to 7” in diameter.
150 4-6 lb. 12-16 Difficult to palpate fetus. Uterine horns are deep in
body cavity with fetus size of large cat – horns 6 to
8” in diameter. Uterine artery 1/4 to 3/8” in diameter.
Cotyledons 2 to 2 1/2” in diameter.
III 180 10-16 lb. 20-24 Horns with fetus still out of reach. Fetus size of small
dog. Uterine artery 3/8 to 1/2” in diameter. Cotyledons
more enlarged. From sixth month until calving
a movement of fetus may be elicited by grasping the
feet, legs or nose.
210 20-30 lb. 24-32 From 7 months until parturition fetus may be felt.
240 40-60 lb. 28-36 Age is largely determined by increase in fetal size.
270 60-100 lb. 28-38 The uterine artery continues to increase in size—
210 days, 1/2” in diameter; 240 days, 1/2 to 5/8” in
diameter; 270 days, 1/2 to 3/4” in diameter.
and toward the left or very low in the body cavity.
The shape of the dorsal and ventral sacs
may be mistaken for the head or rear quarters
of a calf. The difference can be determined by
mashing on these large objects. The paunch will
indent when mashed, while a well-developed
calf may move away from the pressure of your
touch. Also at these late stages of pregnancy,
you can easily distinguish fetal features (ribs,
hooves, ears, etc.) when you touch them.
The kidneys. The kidneys (Figure 6) are suspended
directly under the spinal column at
about a 30-degree downward angle. In cattle,
the left kidney is located more toward the rear
of the animal than is the right kidney. For this
reason, the left kidney is often touched during
palpation. It is elliptically shaped and is sometimes
mistaken for a calf’s nose. Practice will
allow you to distinguish the difference, but
inexperienced palpators can avoid the left kidney
by feeling at a steeper angle into the
abdominal cavity. It is usually at this steeper
angle that large fetuses are located.
The buttons. Buttons may be mistaken for
ovaries or vice versa. Buttons do not have the
solid feel of an ovary but are rather soft. The
best comparison is that they feel like dried apricots
soaked in water. The ovaries are more
rounded and egg-shaped with a firm feel. Only
two are present.
Pyometra. In this condition, the uterus is filled
with white blood cells attempting to clear up
disease organisms. The uterus may be fluid to
the touch or may be somewhat solidified, feeling
rather plastic. This stage may be confused
with early pregnancy stages if the uterus is in a
fluid condition and only partly filled. In the latter
stages of pyometra, the uterus becomes
rather firm.
Large uteri. In older cows that have had many
calves, the uterus may not return to its normal
size, as it will in a younger cow. The enlarged
uterus may be displaced over the brim of the
pelvis as in a 3- to 4-month pregnancy. In the
open cow, careful manipulation of the uterus
will allow you to determine that no fluid and no
developing buttons are present. Relaxation of
the broad ligament tends to cause a similar condition.
The bladder. A full urinary bladder may be
interpreted as a pregnancy in the 60- to 75-day
stages. The full bladder feels similar to the
uterus filled with fluid. Careful tracing should
allow you to determine whether the structure is
the bladder, where there is only one body, or a
pregnant horn of the uterus, where both horns
can be palpated and traced back to the cervix.
Enlarged cervix. Some Brahman and Brahmancrossbred
cattle have an enlarged cervix that is
firm and has the feel of a developing fetus in
the latter stages. Tracing the reproductive tract
allows you to distinguish between the two.
Breed differences. Certain Brahman crossbreeds,
Santa Gertrudis, Charolais, Holstein,
and Brown Swiss cattle, because of their large
size, are more difficult to palpate in certain
stages of pregnancy than the smaller European
breeds. In the 3- to 4-month stages, the uterus
may have dropped so deeply into the body cavity
that it is almost impossible to palpate. In
these cases, pass your hand under the cervix
and lift the uterus to feel the fetus itself. By lifting
the uterus and quickly moving your hand
down into the body cavity, you can determine
the presence of the fetus by gently bobbing the
fluid and the fetus through the wall of the
uterus.

 

[jt]

What is the earliest time after breeding that y'all noticed a heifer springin?

If you know what you are looking for, at 5 to 6 months bred you will notice the teats and bag have dropped some.

on some of them maybe. not on all of them

grown cows are like that too... some look like they could calve anyday for a month or 2 and then there are some that give very little warning... and you go out one day and find them with a calf....

jt

 

[rgv4]

OK. Let me repeat....If you know what your looking for... heifer's teats are tight up against their bodies, at 5 to 6 months bred. the majority of them, if you pay attention to your cattle, the teats will have dropped a little bit, no the bag is not filling with milk, I'm talking a drop of 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Again, you have to pay attention to your heifer's and know them. You probably can't tell on heifer's that you only see once in a while.
Go visit some of your local rancher's that have been in the cattle business for 50+ years, they can show you.


Someone on here is starting to sound alot like another text book repeater. I wonder if they are one in the same?

 

[brokenmouth]

OK. Let me repeat....If you know what your looking for... heifer's teats are tight up against their bodies, at 5 to 6 months bred. the majority of them, if you pay attention to your cattle, the teats will have dropped a little bit, no the bag is not filling with milk, I'm talking a drop of 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Again, you have to pay attention to your heifer's and know them. You probably can't tell on heifer's that you only see once in a while.
Go visit some of your local rancher's that have been in the cattle business for 50+ years, they can show you.

if your big enough to make a 6 figure profit in cattle your way to big to be inspecting the teats on all your heifers. which means if your checking your heifers tha t close you aint makin no 6 figure on the bottom line. which is it

 

[jt]

i know what you are talking about... heifers look like they are developing an udder for 3 or 4 months prior to calving... on mine, i have noticed that the udder will grow slowly over this period, and just before calving will fill on out...

jt

 

[jt]

rgv4... i think the problem here is that what you are talking about and what the original question was are 2 different things... the original question was about springing... and you brought up the development of the udder at an earlier age... this usually would not be a problem, but......

jt

 

[jt]

OK. Let me repeat....If you know what your looking for... heifer's teats are tight up against their bodies, at 5 to 6 months bred. the majority of them, if you pay attention to your cattle, the teats will have dropped a little bit, no the bag is not filling with milk, I'm talking a drop of 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Again, you have to pay attention to your heifer's and know them. You probably can't tell on heifer's that you only see once in a while.
Go visit some of your local rancher's that have been in the cattle business for 50+ years, they can show you.

if your big enough to make a 6 figure profit in cattle your way to big to be inspecting the teats on all your heifers. which means if your checking your heifers tha t close you aint makin no 6 figure on the bottom line. which is it

:lol: brokenmouth... i figure, but could be wrong, that anybody who makes 6 figures with cows are not on these boards... they wouldnt have the time... ;-) btw... unless i misread, he didnt say whether or not he made his money in cows??? looked to me like you could interpret his response either way.... anyways... i figure it ainta worth arguing over ;-)

jmo

jt

 

[Caustic Burno]

OK. Let me repeat....If you know what your looking for... heifer's teats are tight up against their bodies, at 5 to 6 months bred. the majority of them, if you pay attention to your cattle, the teats will have dropped a little bit, no the bag is not filling with milk, I'm talking a drop of 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Again, you have to pay attention to your heifer's and know them. You probably can't tell on heifer's that you only see once in a while.
Go visit some of your local rancher's that have been in the cattle business for 50+ years, they can show you.

if your big enough to make a 6 figure profit in cattle your way to big to be inspecting the teats on all your heifers. which means if your checking your heifers tha t close you aint makin no 6 figure on the bottom line. which is it

:lol: brokenmouth... i figure, but could be wrong, that anybody who makes 6 figures with cows are not on these boards... they wouldnt have the time... ;-) btw... unless i misread, he didnt say whether or not he made his money in cows??? looked to me like you could interpret his response either way.... anyways... i figure it ainta worth arguing over ;-)

jmo

jt

jt, seems to me, he is saying he is the he bull in the qoute.

this a quote from rgv4
Oh, I might PM you later with my profit statement from this year on my cattle and let you be the judge how I am with cattle. Notice that I didn't say profit and loss statement.

 

[rgv4]

OK. Let me repeat....If you know what your looking for... heifer's teats are tight up against their bodies, at 5 to 6 months bred. the majority of them, if you pay attention to your cattle, the teats will have dropped a little bit, no the bag is not filling with milk, I'm talking a drop of 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Again, you have to pay attention to your heifer's and know them. You probably can't tell on heifer's that you only see once in a while.
Go visit some of your local rancher's that have been in the cattle business for 50+ years, they can show you.

if your big enough to make a 6 figure profit in cattle your way to big to be inspecting the teats on all your heifers. which means if your checking your heifers tha t close you aint makin no 6 figure on the bottom line. which is it

:lol: brokenmouth... i figure, but could be wrong, that anybody who makes 6 figures with cows are not on these boards... they wouldnt have the time... ;-) btw... unless i misread, he didnt say whether or not he made his money in cows??? looked to me like you could interpret his response either way.... anyways... i figure it ainta worth arguing over ;-)

jmo

jt

jt, seems to me, he is saying he is the he bull in the qoute.

this a quote from rgv4
Oh, I might PM you later with my profit statement from this year on my cattle and let you be the judge how I am with cattle. Notice that I didn't say profit and loss statement.

Ok, first of all I can drive behind a heifer passing through the pasture and look at her teats. If her teats and bag has dropped, then she is springing. Second of all, today was a catch up day, spent most of the time in the office on the computer doing paperwork. Third, if you will notice, I'm not on this forum that much, unlike others who post at all times through the day and night, all through the week, all through the month. That are supposedly cattle ranchers. Fourth, my money is made from cattle, don't have a off the ranch job and wife doesn't work.

I like to come on here every once in a while to see what kind of bull some of you are putting out. Others I don't even read your posts when your the author.

 

[cowgal]

Ok, first of all I can drive behind a heifer passing through the pasture and look at her teats. If her teats and bag has dropped, then she is springing. Second of all, today was a catch up day, spent most of the time in the office on the computer doing paperwork. Third, if you will notice, I'm not on this forum that much, unlike others who post at all times through the day and night, all through the week, all through the month. That are supposedly cattle ranchers. Fourth, my money is made from cattle, don't have a off the ranch job and wife doesn't work.

I like to come on here every once in a while to see what kind of bull some of you are putting out. Others I don't even read your posts when your the author.

First i would like to say how funny (and a little depressing) it is that you probably skim over my posts!!! :lol2:

Secondly, seems to me that "springin" has different meanings to differnt people. I think later in gestation and also of different parts springin in addition to the teats and udder (which do noticeably develop far ahead of the milk filling them)

Thanks for lettin me spend my $0.02

 

[bubchub]

I see exactly what rgv4 is talking about. I seem to notice the same thing. The minute I get home from school I check about 90 head and can pretty much tell you where every hair is located. Almost the same with my grandfather's 60 head.

 

[brokenmouth]

I see exactly what rgv4 is talking about. I seem to notice the same thing. The minute I get home from school I check about 90 head and can pretty much tell you where every hair is located. Almost the same with my grandfather's 60 head.

thats fine but its a country mile away from the number of cattle you have to run to clear over $200,000.00 profit in a year

 

[la4angus]

thats fine but its a country mile away from the number of cattle you have to run to clear over $200,000.00 profit in a year

Heck brokenmouth, maybe he clears 1000$ a head on 200 head. :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:

 

[Caustic Burno]

thats fine but its a country mile away from the number of cattle you have to run to clear over $200,000.00 profit in a year

Heck brokenmouth, maybe he clears 1000$ a head on 200 head. :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:

Now those are amazing numbers in the average profit is a 100 bucks a head.

 

[jerry27150]

back in the sixties when i started my own dairy i had some bred heifers & the old lady that owned the place before came out to look at them. she wanted to know when they were due. i said they were not due for a long time & she said they are already springing like they are due in about four months & by gawd she was right. always paid a little more attention to their udders after that. she taught me something