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<blockquote data-quote="Australian Cattleman" data-source="post: 89145" data-attributes="member: 285"><p>Never been very interested in Breedplan. Have bought bulls with great figures and been very disappointed with the results. When we select a bull we have a good look at him,forget about the figures until we have assessed him structurely,then we look at his birthweight and ema and we then check out his pedigree.</p><p>We are very suspicious of many of the figures supplied. We never knock any one that uses these as a guide.</p><p>Only today we were looking up a breed website and found some animals that we had sold a long while back. Funnily they had a comprehensive list of figures. We are at a loss as to where they "found them" We weigh all our stud calves at birth,then occasionally at weaning and maybe the 'show' ones at times during their preparation.</p><p>The only figures the sold animals would have had were birthweights.</p><p>Here in Australia a lot of breeders are looking more at EMA and of course birthweights and becoming more common is gene star ratings.</p><p>Went to a South Devon (Breedplan only cattle) sale last year to buy a bull which we did and also purchased a couple of cows. The top sale price was for two cows that obviously were purchased on their figures. They were possibly the two most unappealing cows on offer,they were slab sided and had calves at foot just like them and were doing a very bad job on their calves. The two cows we purchased had figures which we looked up later on down the track,they were the poorest performers on paper but are doing a tremendous job on their calves and looking after themselves as well. I confess that in purchasing our bull I did look at the birthweight as guide,only because it was the first time for a long time that we were going away from a trouble free bloodline. We have no calves by him yet but have only joined him to cows for safety. Our previouse SD sires could be put with heifers with little or no problem.</p><p>A comment about EPDs or Breedplan and any knockers of Angus sure generate debate on this board.</p><p>Thanks for taking the time to comment on my post.</p><p>Colin</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Australian Cattleman, post: 89145, member: 285"] Never been very interested in Breedplan. Have bought bulls with great figures and been very disappointed with the results. When we select a bull we have a good look at him,forget about the figures until we have assessed him structurely,then we look at his birthweight and ema and we then check out his pedigree. We are very suspicious of many of the figures supplied. We never knock any one that uses these as a guide. Only today we were looking up a breed website and found some animals that we had sold a long while back. Funnily they had a comprehensive list of figures. We are at a loss as to where they "found them" We weigh all our stud calves at birth,then occasionally at weaning and maybe the 'show' ones at times during their preparation. The only figures the sold animals would have had were birthweights. Here in Australia a lot of breeders are looking more at EMA and of course birthweights and becoming more common is gene star ratings. Went to a South Devon (Breedplan only cattle) sale last year to buy a bull which we did and also purchased a couple of cows. The top sale price was for two cows that obviously were purchased on their figures. They were possibly the two most unappealing cows on offer,they were slab sided and had calves at foot just like them and were doing a very bad job on their calves. The two cows we purchased had figures which we looked up later on down the track,they were the poorest performers on paper but are doing a tremendous job on their calves and looking after themselves as well. I confess that in purchasing our bull I did look at the birthweight as guide,only because it was the first time for a long time that we were going away from a trouble free bloodline. We have no calves by him yet but have only joined him to cows for safety. Our previouse SD sires could be put with heifers with little or no problem. A comment about EPDs or Breedplan and any knockers of Angus sure generate debate on this board. Thanks for taking the time to comment on my post. Colin [/QUOTE]
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