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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1809319" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>The dam of one of the calves was by TC Franklin 619. She was as sweet as a peach and calm as a cucumber, one of the most docile Angus I have ever had. </p><p>The actual sire of the calf was KCF Bennett Absolute, which I did not specifically mention in the post but did drop a clue to his name. </p><p>Absolute was heavily promoted as a top docility bull. </p><p>Knowing what I know now with him being a son of Final Answer I would have never used him in the first place, but at that time I was all hyped up about Final Answer, then after getting some FA daughters it wasn't long till I was sick of them. The crazy comes honest through Final Answer from Sitz Traveler 8180, </p><p>I think the bloodlines themselves are the best indicator of Angus disposition, regardless of EPD's, management/environment etc, there are just some that are naturally nasty creatures. There are some lines that I would not want on the place as nearly every one I've seen has been plum crazy/aggressive.</p><p>The New Design 036 descendants aren't necessarily great docility EPD wise yet have been pretty good for us. </p><p>I just don't believe in the validity of EPD's they are just numbers that may have some truthful figures behind them, like BW and CE but still too much is subjective on growth and milk, and when you get to some if the categories like docility it's just somebody's interpretation at best. All in all I think EPD's are junk science that's made a few people a lot of money and the single most contributor to the decline of actual knowledge about what cattle are supposed to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1809319, member: 24816"] The dam of one of the calves was by TC Franklin 619. She was as sweet as a peach and calm as a cucumber, one of the most docile Angus I have ever had. The actual sire of the calf was KCF Bennett Absolute, which I did not specifically mention in the post but did drop a clue to his name. Absolute was heavily promoted as a top docility bull. Knowing what I know now with him being a son of Final Answer I would have never used him in the first place, but at that time I was all hyped up about Final Answer, then after getting some FA daughters it wasn’t long till I was sick of them. The crazy comes honest through Final Answer from Sitz Traveler 8180, I think the bloodlines themselves are the best indicator of Angus disposition, regardless of EPD’s, management/environment etc, there are just some that are naturally nasty creatures. There are some lines that I would not want on the place as nearly every one I’ve seen has been plum crazy/aggressive. The New Design 036 descendants aren’t necessarily great docility EPD wise yet have been pretty good for us. I just don’t believe in the validity of EPD’s they are just numbers that may have some truthful figures behind them, like BW and CE but still too much is subjective on growth and milk, and when you get to some if the categories like docility it’s just somebody’s interpretation at best. All in all I think EPD’s are junk science that’s made a few people a lot of money and the single most contributor to the decline of actual knowledge about what cattle are supposed to be. [/QUOTE]
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