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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1808778" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>I can only speak for what I saw, I was a small child in 1978. Back then and into the early 80's, here most cattle were Angus and Herefords on a rare occasion a remnant of a shorthorn cross. Herefords were falling out of favor already at that point. By the mid 80's red and white spotted Simmentals and Charolais were getting popular. Charolais soon passed up the Simmentals then Limousins came along. Angus took a backseat and Herefords were already all but out of the picture through the late 89's - early 90's. Then in the mid to late 90's as a result of the crash and burn of the frame race the new word of the day was moderate framed and as you stated there were enough Angus that hadn't gotten so extremely tall that they almost overnight took over. There I was a young man and had invested a lot money and time in a herd of registered Charolais. </p><p>I was having cows AI bred to the top Charolais bulls in the country mostly from one of the top Charolais programs in the US at the time, Lindskov/Theil Ranch. I had been selling bulls and heifers for $1000, and all of a sudden my market as well as my friends in the breed markets had dried up. The last group of bulls I had many from $50,000-$75,000 AI bulls were sold at commercial steer prices. I sold the heifers at the stockyards all for under $300 per head as yearlings. </p><p>The next bull I bought was a registered Angus and I can assure you I have never made enough of a premium to compensate for the loss. </p><p>So that's why I complain about CAB, as it all came about in a perfect storm.</p><p>Even so I became a believer in Angus. </p><p>Angus can be good cattle, they do a lot of things right, I have said that often. </p><p>I agree with you in that I do not like the current look of a lot of Angus and other breeds too for that matter.</p><p>I know that there are a lot of variation throughout the Angus world because there are so many, but I have found at least locally that pretty much every Angus breeder is essentially just a multiplier for the big breeders and AI companies and all have a similar combination of genetics.</p><p></p><p>As far as cattle grading for CAB, it's choice or higher the exact same as any other choice grade. Obviously a select grade would not be CAB or any other USDA choice grade. </p><p>For the record, I have bought quite a bit of CAB, before we started having our own beef processed. We've finished out Angus, Herefords,BWF and RWF crosses , and they must not be too poor of quality cause it sure is good, and we have had repeat customers for several years.</p><p>My thinking is that Angus are known for marbling, therefor a very high percentage of them will no doubt grade at least choice. I think the new emphasis on carcass breeding is geared toward grading prime. </p><p>It is my belief that about any beef breed or cross and especially British breeds will grade choice at a decent percentage.</p><p>Continentals like Simmentals and Charolais will also grade choice a good percentage of the time as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1808778, member: 24816"] I can only speak for what I saw, I was a small child in 1978. Back then and into the early 80’s, here most cattle were Angus and Herefords on a rare occasion a remnant of a shorthorn cross. Herefords were falling out of favor already at that point. By the mid 80’s red and white spotted Simmentals and Charolais were getting popular. Charolais soon passed up the Simmentals then Limousins came along. Angus took a backseat and Herefords were already all but out of the picture through the late 89’s - early 90’s. Then in the mid to late 90’s as a result of the crash and burn of the frame race the new word of the day was moderate framed and as you stated there were enough Angus that hadn’t gotten so extremely tall that they almost overnight took over. There I was a young man and had invested a lot money and time in a herd of registered Charolais. I was having cows AI bred to the top Charolais bulls in the country mostly from one of the top Charolais programs in the US at the time, Lindskov/Theil Ranch. I had been selling bulls and heifers for $1000, and all of a sudden my market as well as my friends in the breed markets had dried up. The last group of bulls I had many from $50,000-$75,000 AI bulls were sold at commercial steer prices. I sold the heifers at the stockyards all for under $300 per head as yearlings. The next bull I bought was a registered Angus and I can assure you I have never made enough of a premium to compensate for the loss. So that’s why I complain about CAB, as it all came about in a perfect storm. Even so I became a believer in Angus. Angus can be good cattle, they do a lot of things right, I have said that often. I agree with you in that I do not like the current look of a lot of Angus and other breeds too for that matter. I know that there are a lot of variation throughout the Angus world because there are so many, but I have found at least locally that pretty much every Angus breeder is essentially just a multiplier for the big breeders and AI companies and all have a similar combination of genetics. As far as cattle grading for CAB, it’s choice or higher the exact same as any other choice grade. Obviously a select grade would not be CAB or any other USDA choice grade. For the record, I have bought quite a bit of CAB, before we started having our own beef processed. We’ve finished out Angus, Herefords,BWF and RWF crosses , and they must not be too poor of quality cause it sure is good, and we have had repeat customers for several years. My thinking is that Angus are known for marbling, therefor a very high percentage of them will no doubt grade at least choice. I think the new emphasis on carcass breeding is geared toward grading prime. It is my belief that about any beef breed or cross and especially British breeds will grade choice at a decent percentage. Continentals like Simmentals and Charolais will also grade choice a good percentage of the time as well. [/QUOTE]
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