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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1808715" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>You can call it a premium if you want, however, I have read the markets reports put out by the state and they will sometimes actually write in their summary the word "dock or docked"usually in reference to fleshy, unweaned or "off color calves". </p><p></p><p>Yes, I believe that Chianinas were used in Angus and a lot of other breeds back then. Have also heard rumors of Holstein in Angus as well. </p><p>I think the difference between Angus with some Chianina in the woodpile and the black purebred continental breeds is that it is common today to breed for Sim Angus, Balancers, Lim Flex and so the Angus component in those crosses is current. There are black purebred Simmentals and others that genetically are all Simmental just the same as there are Angus that have other things but are by now genetically speaking pure Angus.</p><p>That just means that enough generations have passed to statistically take out the percentage, doesn't mean that the influence isn't still there or that it has been completely bred out. </p><p>Black Simmentals of today look different than the old red and white spotted ones in more ways than just color.</p><p>Angus of today look drastically different than they did years ago too, </p><p>The last registered Angus bull I bought came from a big local registered Angus outfit. When I saw the group of bulls, I couldn't believe what I was looking at, some of them looked like if I didn't know they were registered Angus I would have sworn they were some kind of black crossbreed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1808715, member: 24816"] You can call it a premium if you want, however, I have read the markets reports put out by the state and they will sometimes actually write in their summary the word “dock or docked”usually in reference to fleshy, unweaned or “off color calves”. Yes, I believe that Chianinas were used in Angus and a lot of other breeds back then. Have also heard rumors of Holstein in Angus as well. I think the difference between Angus with some Chianina in the woodpile and the black purebred continental breeds is that it is common today to breed for Sim Angus, Balancers, Lim Flex and so the Angus component in those crosses is current. There are black purebred Simmentals and others that genetically are all Simmental just the same as there are Angus that have other things but are by now genetically speaking pure Angus. That just means that enough generations have passed to statistically take out the percentage, doesn’t mean that the influence isn’t still there or that it has been completely bred out. Black Simmentals of today look different than the old red and white spotted ones in more ways than just color. Angus of today look drastically different than they did years ago too, The last registered Angus bull I bought came from a big local registered Angus outfit. When I saw the group of bulls, I couldn’t believe what I was looking at, some of them looked like if I didn’t know they were registered Angus I would have sworn they were some kind of black crossbreed. [/QUOTE]
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