some of my cows

[plumber_greg]

Cloudy rainy day, not the best pics
Simmi bull, ET calf, Chopper 841U by Brooks Peggy Sue

The kind of cows I try not to raise for replacements. She will wean my biggest calf, but she is all legs, F-1 Simangus steer calf

Couple of the types I am trying to make

1/2 blood fall bull calf I'm saving for now

Another yearling heifer

More

Fall calves I weaned

How about a FInal Answer daughter that just got done weaning a 650lb. calf

Mother of the bull calf, Steel Force daughter

My angus bull out of the Pride Rock family

I think that's another Final Answer

Thanks for looking gs

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Really like that angus bull...

 

[gizmom]

Some good looking cattle, I really like the Angus bull. Looks like this weather is going to be with us for a few days at least in our part of the country they are calling for rain all week. Gonna be a muddy mess fore sure.

gizmom

 

[branguscowgirl]

It looks like you are in a cloud. Nice pictures though. Thanks for sharing. Looks like you have a good group!

 

[Williamsv]

Good looking cattle. Rainy cloudy day here in Middle GA. Looks like it will be like this all next week. We have had almost two inches of rain.

 

[plumber_greg]

Thanks, got the angus bull for heifers. Used him and liked his calves so much the last two years I've used him on the replacement group. If you raise cows that look like your best steer, you are gonna' have a poor group, requiring a lot of feed.
If you raise the maternal type, wide low, smaller frame, you take a beating on the steer calves. My feelings, I learned the hard way. It's quite a balancing act to pull off. gs

 

[bulldurham]

I've always thought there was a pretty simple solution to the dilemma: Use the maternal type bulls you mentioned above to establish your cow base. Once you've established your cow base / ideal stocking rate, then use framier type bulls to produce terminal calves. Then, in years where you want to retain females, go back with maternal foundation type bulls. You can afford to give up a few pounds in years where the goal is to produce replacements. What you can't do is ever afford to give up maternal quality during this time.

I agree, your Angus bull is really nice. I also love the head on that 402 heifer.

 

[plumber_greg]

Or, keep the best cows for breeding to a maternal type for their heifer calves, while breeding the rest to the framier type bulls to produce terminal calves.
The heifers are out of a Big Daddy son, a real maternal bull. This spring I calved the Eagle Eye heifers. Boy I love their udders and type. Gonna' AI the replacement herd to him this spring. His birth weight EPD has come up, but I have had no problems with him so far. gs

 

[Jrd88816]

The problem with the more maternal bull vs the terminal bull is you may not plan on keeping heifers one year. Then you have 3 cows breed back very late, 1 die, and 2 raise calves your not happy with. Then you have to keep heifers. I'm only running one herd of 35 though. I Could see it working great on larger operations.