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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 573334" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>The point in that exercise was missed by me as well. The point I was trying to make was that there are places like that research center in South Dakota where increasing frame and bulk just doesn't pay. The bigger cows require more for maintenance and if more is not available they milk less than a smaller more moderate cow. I wasn't suggesting that those kind of results were repeatable EVERYwhere. Whether a cow weighs 1000 or 1800 lbs, she isn't paying her way with a calf that at 205 days adjusts out to 34% of her body weight. I don't care whether she has the gene for feed efficiency and the gene for fertility (and I have seen a lot of fat and sassy cows that breed back quick every year wean little dinks). Nobody is telling Herefordsire not to breed big cattle. I like it that there are places where you can get Herefords and Angus that are bred for one thing and one thing alone and that is growth. They make dandy terminal and cleanup bulls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 573334, member: 7645"] The point in that exercise was missed by me as well. The point I was trying to make was that there are places like that research center in South Dakota where increasing frame and bulk just doesn't pay. The bigger cows require more for maintenance and if more is not available they milk less than a smaller more moderate cow. I wasn't suggesting that those kind of results were repeatable EVERYwhere. Whether a cow weighs 1000 or 1800 lbs, she isn't paying her way with a calf that at 205 days adjusts out to 34% of her body weight. I don't care whether she has the gene for feed efficiency and the gene for fertility (and I have seen a lot of fat and sassy cows that breed back quick every year wean little dinks). Nobody is telling Herefordsire not to breed big cattle. I like it that there are places where you can get Herefords and Angus that are bred for one thing and one thing alone and that is growth. They make dandy terminal and cleanup bulls. [/QUOTE]
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