bigbull338
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those sure are some fine looking herefods.the bull is a meat wagon.
greenwillowhereford II":1md2txgy said:Photos not the best quality, too late in evening, too hurried. Taken at the lease, where fence work is continuously in progress. A several week dry spell left the grass hurting, and pond needs a lot of work, so I have since moved them all to headquarters to eat down the three and four foot tall wilderness in the lot here. BCS has since improved greatly.
Bull calf pictured weighed 486 on the 11th of August, born on March 21.
Big bull will be 3 in November.
HerefordSire":3dt0ljw5 said:Glad you like 'em. I figured that F250 and F350 and F450 etc might come along later....
I didn't know you like large cattle. I am glad I am not the only one.
If the F-150 name is a 1/2 ton or 1,000 pounds, and the F-250 name is a 3/4 ton or 1,500 pounds, and the F-350 name is a 1 ton or 2,000 pounds, then naming your next could be "Super Duty" after a Remitall bull.
CPL":27z01bon said:Nice cattle greenwillow. In picture 4 it looks like you have a good "chore boy" as my grandpa would call it ;-) .
I hope you don't mind, but since you mentioned Harper Cattle I thought I'd post this picture. Every time I look at it I always have to clean up the drool. If more Hereford bulls looked like this we would be in the money business.
greenwillowhereford II":4ar4vvgx said:You really should look into the Harper Cattle Co. of Texas and New Mexico. They purchased the old Ochs Bros herd of Gunnison Colorado. Now there are some massive beef machines. Bulls up to 3,245# and 63" tall. Cows that weigh a ton. At least they did in Colorado. You might suppose that they've moderated to some extent in Texas and New Mexico.
There is no question that this picture of this bull is one to drool over! He fits the mold of the Hereford Bull Phenotype that most breeders have in their mind as the perfect image.CPL":1qspskme said:Nice cattle greenwillow. In picture 4 it looks like you have a good "chore boy" as my grandpa would call it ;-) .
I hope you don't mind, but since you mentioned Harper Cattle I thought I'd post this picture. Every time I look at it I always have to clean up the drool. If more Hereford bulls looked like this we would be in the money business.
DOC HARRIS":39926jgi said:CPL":39926jgi said:Nice cattle greenwillow. In picture 4 it looks like you have a good "chore boy" as my grandpa would call it ;-) .
I hope you don't mind, but since you mentioned Harper Cattle I thought I'd post this picture. Every time I look at it I always have to clean up the drool. If more Hereford bulls looked like this we would be in the money business.
http://harpercattle.com/sires/images/OB-Joyful.jpg[/ig][/quote]There is no question that this picture of this bull is one to drool over! He fits the mold of the Hereford Bull Phenotype that most breeders have in their mind as the perfect image.
That said, I question whether THIS is the optimal IDEAL PROFIT PRODUCER that the current Bull selection choices profess to be the model for the [b][i]ICON[/i][/b] of perfection, given that the FOCUS is being placed on 1250# momma cows, and in light of the feed and fuel costs (including land and pasture values)going out of sight! He is a beautiful animal - "droolable" for certain, but is he what we want to be making our current brood cows for the future!? :shock:
I think not.
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Doc, the penotype is where it needs to be and even though he is a little out of range (being a little over 7 in FS) that does not mean he is worthless. A similar type bull Rambo 279R sold for a ton and made a lot of headlines. I've always said that he himself is too big, but if the current owners could get a son that was in acceptable FS range and mature weight, with the same body and power, they'd have a real nice bull. I think the same about 57H. With all that being said, I would rather have 10 7 Frame cows that were more ideal in phenotype and moderate them than have ten 4,5,6 Frame cows that'd I'd have to add body, depth, soundness, etc. Frame 7 cows don't scare me, I think they have their place. I think alot of breeders are thinking they have to scarifice quality for moderate size and it shouldn't be that way.
DOC HARRIS":2cosydv3 said:There is no question that this picture of this bull is one to drool over! He fits the mold of the Hereford Bull Phenotype that most breeders have in their mind as the perfect image.CPL":2cosydv3 said:Nice cattle greenwillow. In picture 4 it looks like you have a good "chore boy" as my grandpa would call it ;-) .
I hope you don't mind, but since you mentioned Harper Cattle I thought I'd post this picture. Every time I look at it I always have to clean up the drool. If more Hereford bulls looked like this we would be in the money business.
That said, I question whether THIS is the optimal IDEAL PROFIT PRODUCER that the current Bull selection choices profess to be the model for the ICON of perfection, given that the FOCUS is being placed on 1250# momma cows, and in light of the feed and fuel costs (including land and pasture values)going out of sight! He is a beautiful animal - "droolable" for certain, but is he what we want to be making our current brood cows for the future!? :shock:
I think not.
DOC HARRIS
DOC HARRIS":17m0u42r said:That said, I question whether THIS is the optimal IDEAL PROFIT PRODUCER that the current Bull selection choices profess to be the model for the ICON of perfection, given that the FOCUS is being placed on 1250# momma cows, and in light of the feed and fuel costs (including land and pasture values)going out of sight! He is a beautiful animal - "droolable" for certain, but is he what we want to be making our current brood cows for the future!? :shock:
I think not.
DOC HARRIS
CPL":1nllmugz said:Doc, the penotype is where it needs to be and even though he is a little out of range (being a little over 7 in FS) that does not mean he is worthless. A similar type bull Rambo 279R sold for a ton and made a lot of headlines. I've always said that he himself is too big, but if the current owners could get a son that was in acceptable FS range and mature weight, with the same body and power, they'd have a real nice bull. I think the same about 57H. With all that being said, I would rather have 10 7 Frame cows that were more ideal in phenotype and moderate them than have ten 4,5,6 Frame cows that'd I'd have to add body, depth, soundness, etc. Frame 7 cows don't scare me, I think they have their place. I think alot of breeders are thinking they have to scarifice quality for moderate size and it shouldn't be that way.