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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 151412" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>The short Angus miraculously grew legs back then, called a little influence from the Chianina breed. And the Herefords, suddenly decided it was important to breed for goggle eyes (little Simmental influence). Now, this is speculative information, although I am aware of a bull that was DNA tested & his papers were pulled - happened right at state fair time & there was a big discussion as to whether offspring could be shown (VERY popular Angus). I don't know pedigrees, just know that enough breeders discussed the rapid "change" and influence from "across the fence".</p><p></p><p>FredieJ51 - please hold down the volume! When you type in all uppercase letters - you are screaming at us. Maybe you wanted to, but it is not polite - now that you know.</p><p>And yes, the fleckvieh cattle are moderate in size & are easy fleshing. But as I said, a frame 5-6 Angus, Simm, Hfd, etc are still a frame 5-6 and should perform similarly. Yes, some breeds marble, and set in outside fat differently. For example (now this is a brooaard statement!) Shorthorns & Herefords are know to easily set in outside fat, but have a harder time marbling; whereas the Angus and Simmentals can marble easier without as much external fat.</p><p>You have to be careful with some of the Fleckvieh lines - way tooo heavy front ends for calving ease. Sometimes I see Fleckvieh ads and I think "these people must think the CE & BW info is reverse - they think -CE is best & +BW is best". I totally admit that there are some great Fleckvieh lines, and they have helped make our "modern" american Simmental. But, I do caution against getting heavy fronted bulls - of any breed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 151412, member: 968"] The short Angus miraculously grew legs back then, called a little influence from the Chianina breed. And the Herefords, suddenly decided it was important to breed for goggle eyes (little Simmental influence). Now, this is speculative information, although I am aware of a bull that was DNA tested & his papers were pulled - happened right at state fair time & there was a big discussion as to whether offspring could be shown (VERY popular Angus). I don't know pedigrees, just know that enough breeders discussed the rapid "change" and influence from "across the fence". FredieJ51 - please hold down the volume! When you type in all uppercase letters - you are screaming at us. Maybe you wanted to, but it is not polite - now that you know. And yes, the fleckvieh cattle are moderate in size & are easy fleshing. But as I said, a frame 5-6 Angus, Simm, Hfd, etc are still a frame 5-6 and should perform similarly. Yes, some breeds marble, and set in outside fat differently. For example (now this is a brooaard statement!) Shorthorns & Herefords are know to easily set in outside fat, but have a harder time marbling; whereas the Angus and Simmentals can marble easier without as much external fat. You have to be careful with some of the Fleckvieh lines - way tooo heavy front ends for calving ease. Sometimes I see Fleckvieh ads and I think "these people must think the CE & BW info is reverse - they think -CE is best & +BW is best". I totally admit that there are some great Fleckvieh lines, and they have helped make our "modern" american Simmental. But, I do caution against getting heavy fronted bulls - of any breed. [/QUOTE]
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