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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 150801" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I don't disagree with much of that when directed at breeders in general; but I still think you were a little harsh when that was directed at S.R.R. He was interested in some Simmentals. Rather than just go out and buy some Simmentals and throw the genetic dice he did research and talked to a local rancher who was more experienced with them and was told that they are slow finishing (compared to the typical Angus they certainly are). That might have been enough for some people, but S.R.R. tooks his concerns to us on the internet for our input. I really don't see him frozen by pessimism. I think you also hit on a good point. The major breeds are becoming so diverse that talking in generalities about Simmies, Angus, Herfs, Chars, Lims, etc is becoming an almost meaningless dicussion. Your friend, "Prince Sunbeam" <a href="http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl.html?A=0E061F55555E45425958435E58435F55405D4F425B4F475F520F&B=434055414254" target="_blank">http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl ... 4055414254</a> (you got to love the gaudy $41 EN number though)</p><p>versus something like 5175</p><p><a href="http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl.html?A=0E061F55555E45425958435E58435F55405D4F405D4F4054520F&B=44405F4042544743" target="_blank">http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl ... 4042544743</a></p><p>is quite a difference in performance.</p><p>Though both are "Anguses" their performance is wildly varying and they are probably not the most extreme ends of their types. If "5175" is your mental idea of an Angus you are going to have very different views than if "Prince Sunbeam 29" is your mental Angus standard, and both probably still have descendents being born out there somewhere. Now you can find early maturing Charolais and frame score 8 Angus's and calving ease Simms; thus answering a question like "are Simms slow fleshing" becomes almost an impossible exercise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 150801, member: 2095"] I don't disagree with much of that when directed at breeders in general; but I still think you were a little harsh when that was directed at S.R.R. He was interested in some Simmentals. Rather than just go out and buy some Simmentals and throw the genetic dice he did research and talked to a local rancher who was more experienced with them and was told that they are slow finishing (compared to the typical Angus they certainly are). That might have been enough for some people, but S.R.R. tooks his concerns to us on the internet for our input. I really don't see him frozen by pessimism. I think you also hit on a good point. The major breeds are becoming so diverse that talking in generalities about Simmies, Angus, Herfs, Chars, Lims, etc is becoming an almost meaningless dicussion. Your friend, "Prince Sunbeam" [url=http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl.html?A=0E061F55555E45425958435E58435F55405D4F425B4F475F520F&B=434055414254]http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl ... 4055414254[/url] (you got to love the gaudy $41 EN number though) versus something like 5175 [url=http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl.html?A=0E061F55555E45425958435E58435F55405D4F405D4F4054520F&B=44405F4042544743]http://www.angus.org/common/epd_ped_dtl ... 4042544743[/url] is quite a difference in performance. Though both are "Anguses" their performance is wildly varying and they are probably not the most extreme ends of their types. If "5175" is your mental idea of an Angus you are going to have very different views than if "Prince Sunbeam 29" is your mental Angus standard, and both probably still have descendents being born out there somewhere. Now you can find early maturing Charolais and frame score 8 Angus's and calving ease Simms; thus answering a question like "are Simms slow fleshing" becomes almost an impossible exercise. [/QUOTE]
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