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<blockquote data-quote="JustSimmental" data-source="post: 891692" data-attributes="member: 14624"><p>I don't think I have ever been rude to people here. They joke around and I joke around --- I do like teasing Aggies-- but that is a Texas thing and has nothing to do with this. What I really dislike is PB breeders selling junk to the misinformed buyer << this is the worst thing there is. </p><p></p><p>I really think it is part of our job as PB breeders to only sell breeding stock that is above average-- who wants to pay top dollar for below average bulls or cows? I don't have any here, but many do. I guess I am against the old adage of "Buyer Beware" as it doesn't take much integrity and even less honor to cheat your neighbor. A return customer is worth a lot and "we" are not here just to have a one-time sale. We will continue to sell top 5% bulls for a fair price. This is how to best assist our commercial counterparts in their quest for profits--isn't it? I'm just not going to cheat my neighbor for a dollar.. </p><p></p><p>All ya had to do was ask TB --- we don't use permanent pastures due to their poor quality <u>compared to</u> winter and summer annuals; winter/spring perennials and summer perennials. It's more management, but it pays in the end. </p><p></p><p>It is the overlapping of our forage bases that make it work here and not just here but as far north as VA west to TX. </p><p></p><p>We calve in the fall for many reasons, but the best reason is that we can grow better forages (nutritionally) in the fall/winter months, which coincides with peak milk production and our breeding season. For the past 4 years we have had a 36 day breeding season and this is done by optimum health and nutrition. This is a simple thing to understand.</p><p></p><p>Past breeding season cows/calves are grazing Rye and by March they are moved into pure stands of Arrowleaf Clover (limit grazed) as our calves are at the age where they are consuming forages readily and depend less and less on mothers milk and gaining rapidly. This coincides with a decrease in nutritional requirements for the cows and any that need the extra nutrition can easily get it grazing pure stands of clover.</p><p></p><p>By May, calves are weaned and cows moved to summer pastures and calves pre-conditioned , separated by sex and moved to millet fields for the remainder of Spring and Summer. </p><p></p><p>Bulls are usually gone by July to various feed programs or sold by then; private treaty. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm wondering what kind of forage they feed. Seems to be preaching on thing and practicing another:</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Yall are always wanting photos -- here is a pasture that we don't use anymore due to the fact that we can grow millet cheaper and that is nutritionally superior to this grass >>></p><p><img src="http://www.edrsimmental.com/resources/8282009%20018.jpg.opt676x506o0,0s676x506.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>and</p><p><img src="http://www.edrsimmental.com/resources/Pics0811%20005.jpg.opt675x506o0,0s675x506.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="JustSimmental, post: 891692, member: 14624"] I don't think I have ever been rude to people here. They joke around and I joke around --- I do like teasing Aggies-- but that is a Texas thing and has nothing to do with this. What I really dislike is PB breeders selling junk to the misinformed buyer << this is the worst thing there is. I really think it is part of our job as PB breeders to only sell breeding stock that is above average-- who wants to pay top dollar for below average bulls or cows? I don't have any here, but many do. I guess I am against the old adage of "Buyer Beware" as it doesn't take much integrity and even less honor to cheat your neighbor. A return customer is worth a lot and "we" are not here just to have a one-time sale. We will continue to sell top 5% bulls for a fair price. This is how to best assist our commercial counterparts in their quest for profits--isn't it? I'm just not going to cheat my neighbor for a dollar.. All ya had to do was ask TB --- we don't use permanent pastures due to their poor quality [u]compared to[/u] winter and summer annuals; winter/spring perennials and summer perennials. It's more management, but it pays in the end. It is the overlapping of our forage bases that make it work here and not just here but as far north as VA west to TX. We calve in the fall for many reasons, but the best reason is that we can grow better forages (nutritionally) in the fall/winter months, which coincides with peak milk production and our breeding season. For the past 4 years we have had a 36 day breeding season and this is done by optimum health and nutrition. This is a simple thing to understand. Past breeding season cows/calves are grazing Rye and by March they are moved into pure stands of Arrowleaf Clover (limit grazed) as our calves are at the age where they are consuming forages readily and depend less and less on mothers milk and gaining rapidly. This coincides with a decrease in nutritional requirements for the cows and any that need the extra nutrition can easily get it grazing pure stands of clover. By May, calves are weaned and cows moved to summer pastures and calves pre-conditioned , separated by sex and moved to millet fields for the remainder of Spring and Summer. Bulls are usually gone by July to various feed programs or sold by then; private treaty. I'm wondering what kind of forage they feed. Seems to be preaching on thing and practicing another: [/quote] Yall are always wanting photos -- here is a pasture that we don't use anymore due to the fact that we can grow millet cheaper and that is nutritionally superior to this grass >>> [img]http://www.edrsimmental.com/resources/8282009%20018.jpg.opt676x506o0,0s676x506.jpg[/img] and [img]http://www.edrsimmental.com/resources/Pics0811%20005.jpg.opt675x506o0,0s675x506.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE]
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