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<blockquote data-quote="biels" data-source="post: 960235" data-attributes="member: 19533"><p>I am a sim man. I find that most simmentals that are 'purebred' aren't really even 7/8 pure when you look at their pedigree on paper, you will see when you extend it out to the 64 level that most 'purebreds' arent even 70% pure. I am very irritated with this, I have done some calculations and at the rate were going in 20 yrs the average pb sim wont even be 50% pure. The ASA is becoming the AAA jr, lol. Were all just copying angus. No purebred breeders use any FB sim genetics. Some ppl think theres only a handful of major bloodlines in the gene pool of angus, but the sim gene pool is even worse. Todays average PB cow goes back to 600U at least 6 times. I am also wondering something about angus since I have a few of them and am planning to keep extending my Angus herd. Are todays american angus really pure? I know they claim they are, but I also know that they have grown tremendously in height and WW and YW numbers since 30yrs ago. Is this evolution or is this the result of people registering angus like pine drive big sky that arent rly 100% angus? Did other breeds get in the angus gene pool, if so which ones? My guess it could possibly be Chi or Sim. One last question, I am wanting to start a true f1 program and am debating ether A.I.ing my angus cows to FB Sim bull, or buying FB sim cows and AI.ing them to angus, (which i think is the better option, since you wudnt want to take a homo black animal and bred it to have hetro, or even choclate progeny.) Anyways if I do get cows I was wondering which FB sim bull is best for balance, and eye appeal, I really dont like all the underjaw waiste most FB sim have. I have been looking into HP King so far, is he any good?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="biels, post: 960235, member: 19533"] I am a sim man. I find that most simmentals that are 'purebred' aren't really even 7/8 pure when you look at their pedigree on paper, you will see when you extend it out to the 64 level that most 'purebreds' arent even 70% pure. I am very irritated with this, I have done some calculations and at the rate were going in 20 yrs the average pb sim wont even be 50% pure. The ASA is becoming the AAA jr, lol. Were all just copying angus. No purebred breeders use any FB sim genetics. Some ppl think theres only a handful of major bloodlines in the gene pool of angus, but the sim gene pool is even worse. Todays average PB cow goes back to 600U at least 6 times. I am also wondering something about angus since I have a few of them and am planning to keep extending my Angus herd. Are todays american angus really pure? I know they claim they are, but I also know that they have grown tremendously in height and WW and YW numbers since 30yrs ago. Is this evolution or is this the result of people registering angus like pine drive big sky that arent rly 100% angus? Did other breeds get in the angus gene pool, if so which ones? My guess it could possibly be Chi or Sim. One last question, I am wanting to start a true f1 program and am debating ether A.I.ing my angus cows to FB Sim bull, or buying FB sim cows and AI.ing them to angus, (which i think is the better option, since you wudnt want to take a homo black animal and bred it to have hetro, or even choclate progeny.) Anyways if I do get cows I was wondering which FB sim bull is best for balance, and eye appeal, I really dont like all the underjaw waiste most FB sim have. I have been looking into HP King so far, is he any good? [/QUOTE]
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