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<blockquote data-quote="Lisagrantb" data-source="post: 1677547" data-attributes="member: 39668"><p>I have shot with and trained local and federal officers in small arms and hand to hand for many years. The issue is TRAINING, TRAINING AND TRAINING. In a stressful situation you do not rise to the task you default to your training level. When I say training level it means just that, most departments qualify with their arms just like you were at the range on a Sunday evening just casually plinking away. Your average officer can not hold a candle to your average 3 gun competitor that trains 15-20 times a year and goes to a handful of local matches, I have seen this many many times at matches. I use to run an exercise before a training session it would go like this, I would pick the most A type gung ho person of the bunch and tell him to lay his pistol unloaded with mag out on the barrel in front of him. He would have to run about 20 yards and touch something then return to his pistol, load and fire 2 shots at a silhouette target of a guy pointing a gun at him. These targets were remote control and would turn 90 degrees when I pushed the button. I told him to do this as fast as he can safely and NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE TASK. Then I would say go and when he took off I would put 2 extra mags on the barrel beside his but they wouldn't fit his gun, as he returns to the barrel he would freeze and stare at the mags like a calf looking at a new gate for a few seconds. Then I would start hollering at him telling him that he has the wrong mag to get the other one and keep this up until until most of the time they would get frustrated and go into shutdown mode. If they managed to get the gun loaded I would still be in there ear screaming something and I would turn the targets around and there would not be a target in front of them that was threatening but one about 30-40 degrees to one side. 9 out of 10 that made it to this point wouldn't even see the real threat. To sum it all up nobody is perfect and mistakes will be made, train like you fight because you will fight like you train, and they the profession should pay these guys like professionals and expect more put of them. The cream will rise to the top and you should reward that. One other thing I see as a big deficiency is the ability to have the confidence to disarm and restrain someone without having to rely upon the gun all the time. If this video loads it shows what a well trained person can do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lisagrantb, post: 1677547, member: 39668"] I have shot with and trained local and federal officers in small arms and hand to hand for many years. The issue is TRAINING, TRAINING AND TRAINING. In a stressful situation you do not rise to the task you default to your training level. When I say training level it means just that, most departments qualify with their arms just like you were at the range on a Sunday evening just casually plinking away. Your average officer can not hold a candle to your average 3 gun competitor that trains 15-20 times a year and goes to a handful of local matches, I have seen this many many times at matches. I use to run an exercise before a training session it would go like this, I would pick the most A type gung ho person of the bunch and tell him to lay his pistol unloaded with mag out on the barrel in front of him. He would have to run about 20 yards and touch something then return to his pistol, load and fire 2 shots at a silhouette target of a guy pointing a gun at him. These targets were remote control and would turn 90 degrees when I pushed the button. I told him to do this as fast as he can safely and NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE TASK. Then I would say go and when he took off I would put 2 extra mags on the barrel beside his but they wouldn’t fit his gun, as he returns to the barrel he would freeze and stare at the mags like a calf looking at a new gate for a few seconds. Then I would start hollering at him telling him that he has the wrong mag to get the other one and keep this up until until most of the time they would get frustrated and go into shutdown mode. If they managed to get the gun loaded I would still be in there ear screaming something and I would turn the targets around and there would not be a target in front of them that was threatening but one about 30-40 degrees to one side. 9 out of 10 that made it to this point wouldn’t even see the real threat. To sum it all up nobody is perfect and mistakes will be made, train like you fight because you will fight like you train, and they the profession should pay these guys like professionals and expect more put of them. The cream will rise to the top and you should reward that. One other thing I see as a big deficiency is the ability to have the confidence to disarm and restrain someone without having to rely upon the gun all the time. If this video loads it shows what a well trained person can do. [/QUOTE]
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