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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1426083" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Have spent quite a bit of time at the sale yard in the past few weeks. We hit a great week about 3 weeks ago and got $1.80 for some 425lb steers. Took about 16 steers and a few small mediocre heifers off a group of cows. All the steers were in the 4-5 wts and none were less than 1.69. The following week took another group of about 10 and the prices were about $.15 less per lb. for all sizes. Prices continue to soften a bit and will stay this way until Late August if the normal trends hold. In all sizes, the bulls were anywhere from $.10 to $.40 LESS per lb. than steers. There are 2 or 3 buyers that will pick up the bulls, and one told me that he will cut em and run them to about 8-9 wts and then sell in the graded sales. He said right out that he has to pay $.15 minimum less than steers to make it figure for him. Another buyer we have known a long time has often told us NOT to sell them as bulls, that we are losing too much money now that the crazy high prices of a couple of years ago are over with.</p><p>We seldom will sell as bulls, although we did some when prices were way up there. Not now. Anything over 6 wts you really get hit here if they are bulls.</p><p></p><p>Picked up 5 cow/calf pairs for an average 1,000 a pair. 4 had bull calves and we worked them as soon as we got them in. One had 2 heifer calves, they think they were twins but not totally sure. Cow seemed to be talking to them so will keep her close to see. Calves in the 200 lb range so not new babies but up and going. Checked the cows mouths, got one old cow, 2 older mature and 2 that were in the 4-6 year old range. All were in real good flesh, and calves looked good. One calf had some runny looking eyes so treated it and will watch it for a few days to make sure it clears up before they go to pasture with the bull. Cows all weighed in the 11-1200 range. There were also about 25 purebred angus but no papers that brought in the 1900 to 2200 range. All had calves but too much for my taste. Farm was selling out. The ones I got were not from there, but it doesn't matter, I can make these pencil out if they all raise their calves. Will probably not breed the one old cow back, but the others will hopefully go out with a bull in a week or so. Nice thing is they are all pretty quiet to work around and that is saying alot after being poked and prodded and pushed around at the sale. We have shipped nearly a dozen cows that come up open from the last 2 preg checks and all but 3 had no teeth. So it was time. Have 15 heifers out with the bull but am always looking for some that will have a calf to sell sooner when we cull a group. </p><p>May sit on the rest of the calves from the late nov-dec calving group for awhile. Mostly heifers, we are running 70% or more of heifers for both fall 2016 and spring 2017. But better a live heifer than a dead bull.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1426083, member: 25884"] Have spent quite a bit of time at the sale yard in the past few weeks. We hit a great week about 3 weeks ago and got $1.80 for some 425lb steers. Took about 16 steers and a few small mediocre heifers off a group of cows. All the steers were in the 4-5 wts and none were less than 1.69. The following week took another group of about 10 and the prices were about $.15 less per lb. for all sizes. Prices continue to soften a bit and will stay this way until Late August if the normal trends hold. In all sizes, the bulls were anywhere from $.10 to $.40 LESS per lb. than steers. There are 2 or 3 buyers that will pick up the bulls, and one told me that he will cut em and run them to about 8-9 wts and then sell in the graded sales. He said right out that he has to pay $.15 minimum less than steers to make it figure for him. Another buyer we have known a long time has often told us NOT to sell them as bulls, that we are losing too much money now that the crazy high prices of a couple of years ago are over with. We seldom will sell as bulls, although we did some when prices were way up there. Not now. Anything over 6 wts you really get hit here if they are bulls. Picked up 5 cow/calf pairs for an average 1,000 a pair. 4 had bull calves and we worked them as soon as we got them in. One had 2 heifer calves, they think they were twins but not totally sure. Cow seemed to be talking to them so will keep her close to see. Calves in the 200 lb range so not new babies but up and going. Checked the cows mouths, got one old cow, 2 older mature and 2 that were in the 4-6 year old range. All were in real good flesh, and calves looked good. One calf had some runny looking eyes so treated it and will watch it for a few days to make sure it clears up before they go to pasture with the bull. Cows all weighed in the 11-1200 range. There were also about 25 purebred angus but no papers that brought in the 1900 to 2200 range. All had calves but too much for my taste. Farm was selling out. The ones I got were not from there, but it doesn't matter, I can make these pencil out if they all raise their calves. Will probably not breed the one old cow back, but the others will hopefully go out with a bull in a week or so. Nice thing is they are all pretty quiet to work around and that is saying alot after being poked and prodded and pushed around at the sale. We have shipped nearly a dozen cows that come up open from the last 2 preg checks and all but 3 had no teeth. So it was time. Have 15 heifers out with the bull but am always looking for some that will have a calf to sell sooner when we cull a group. May sit on the rest of the calves from the late nov-dec calving group for awhile. Mostly heifers, we are running 70% or more of heifers for both fall 2016 and spring 2017. But better a live heifer than a dead bull..... [/QUOTE]
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