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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 4207"><p>that is very interesting to me.. i have had a donkey in the past to deal with dogs, etc, but she didnt work out well, wanted to steal the baby calves from the momma cow. i will look into this and may get one just for that reason.</p><p></p><p>thanks for that info. also i can see where the 2 10' gates would work very well in catching their heads..</p><p></p><p>thanks again</p><p></p><p>gene</p><p></p><p>> Long Live UT! Appreciate your</p><p>> honest comments. To address some</p><p>> of your concerns: There are</p><p>> Longhorns and there are</p><p>> Longhorns--like any livestock,</p><p>> they have a pecking order;</p><p>> however, I have never seen or</p><p>> heard of a Longhorn injuring or</p><p>> killing another livestock. Now,</p><p>> they will aggressively chase away</p><p>> coyotes, wolves, cats, non-cattle</p><p>> dogs and other</p><p>> "perdator" species.</p><p>> Cattle and horses, as I'm sure you</p><p>> well know, are "prey"</p><p>> animals.</p><p></p><p>> We have mixed our Longhorns with</p><p>> our Tennessee Walking Horses and</p><p>> Peruvian Paso Horses with no</p><p>> unpleasant events occurring. Our</p><p>> Peruvian Paso brood mare did chase</p><p>> away a barely weaned Longhorn</p><p>> heifer once, though.</p><p></p><p>> The Longhorns will challenge their</p><p>> own kind for pecking position when</p><p>> a new one is introduced into the</p><p>> pasture (as I am sure other breeds</p><p>> do too). However, the Longhorns</p><p>> know EXACTLY where the tip of</p><p>> their horns are and can scratch an</p><p>> itch smaller than your</p><p>> fingertip--watching them vie for</p><p>> position (or mating dance between</p><p>> Bull and Cow) they</p><p>> "play" with each other</p><p>> with the horns; but, primarily it</p><p>> is head-pushing--never touching</p><p>> the tip of a horn in a vital spot</p><p>> or drawing any blood. If you will</p><p>> pardon my next comment...lol I</p><p>> would much rather have a Longhorn</p><p>> or two in the yard than an</p><p>> undisclipined child waving a stick</p><p>> around or playing with a bow and</p><p>> arrow.</p><p></p><p>> Yes, they do make nice pasture</p><p>> ornaments and there is a</p><p>> significant market there. Some</p><p>> companies will have some in their</p><p>> front area to attract the</p><p>> attention of passersby to make</p><p>> sure they see their business sign!</p><p></p><p>> True again--Longhorns do NOT work</p><p>> well in traditional cattle chutes</p><p>> and headgates, once their horns</p><p>> pass about 6" or so from the</p><p>> tip of their ears. We use what</p><p>> they call the "Medina</p><p>> Hinge" concept which is a</p><p>> couple of 10' gates hinged about</p><p>> 6" apart which swing together</p><p>> following a 1/4" thick curved</p><p>> steel plate at the opening/closing</p><p>> end. Works like a miracle. Note: a</p><p>> Longhorn with a 48" or so tip</p><p>> to tip spread can pass thru an</p><p>> alley 20-24" wide with little</p><p>> effort...they manoeuver their</p><p>> horns very well.</p><p></p><p>> Finally, thanks again for</p><p>> responding and your nice comments!</p><p></p><p>> Bill</p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:genemax@rabofla.net">genemax@rabofla.net</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 4207"] that is very interesting to me.. i have had a donkey in the past to deal with dogs, etc, but she didnt work out well, wanted to steal the baby calves from the momma cow. i will look into this and may get one just for that reason. thanks for that info. also i can see where the 2 10' gates would work very well in catching their heads.. thanks again gene > Long Live UT! Appreciate your > honest comments. To address some > of your concerns: There are > Longhorns and there are > Longhorns--like any livestock, > they have a pecking order; > however, I have never seen or > heard of a Longhorn injuring or > killing another livestock. Now, > they will aggressively chase away > coyotes, wolves, cats, non-cattle > dogs and other > "perdator" species. > Cattle and horses, as I'm sure you > well know, are "prey" > animals. > We have mixed our Longhorns with > our Tennessee Walking Horses and > Peruvian Paso Horses with no > unpleasant events occurring. Our > Peruvian Paso brood mare did chase > away a barely weaned Longhorn > heifer once, though. > The Longhorns will challenge their > own kind for pecking position when > a new one is introduced into the > pasture (as I am sure other breeds > do too). However, the Longhorns > know EXACTLY where the tip of > their horns are and can scratch an > itch smaller than your > fingertip--watching them vie for > position (or mating dance between > Bull and Cow) they > "play" with each other > with the horns; but, primarily it > is head-pushing--never touching > the tip of a horn in a vital spot > or drawing any blood. If you will > pardon my next comment...lol I > would much rather have a Longhorn > or two in the yard than an > undisclipined child waving a stick > around or playing with a bow and > arrow. > Yes, they do make nice pasture > ornaments and there is a > significant market there. Some > companies will have some in their > front area to attract the > attention of passersby to make > sure they see their business sign! > True again--Longhorns do NOT work > well in traditional cattle chutes > and headgates, once their horns > pass about 6" or so from the > tip of their ears. We use what > they call the "Medina > Hinge" concept which is a > couple of 10' gates hinged about > 6" apart which swing together > following a 1/4" thick curved > steel plate at the opening/closing > end. Works like a miracle. Note: a > Longhorn with a 48" or so tip > to tip spread can pass thru an > alley 20-24" wide with little > effort...they manoeuver their > horns very well. > Finally, thanks again for > responding and your nice comments! > Bill [email=genemax@rabofla.net]genemax@rabofla.net[/email] [/QUOTE]
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