Santa Gertrudis anyone

registered gert breeders around here are desperately trying to get their frame scores down. Do you know anything about that?

They are also using red angus to develop a composite. ;-)
 
Santa Gertrubis X Herefords used to be very popular around here.

Don't see many of those Red Mottled faced cows anymore. The calves worked pretty good no matter the breed of bull used.

Conts or British
 
The Gert x Hereford and Gert x Red Angus makes an excellent cross. Cows are good and steer mates feed well. Many Santa Gertrudis breeders are working to moderate the mature size and make the cattle easier keepers. This breed is making good strides in identifying cattle witht he tenderness gene.
 
I have a show heifer who's dam was a Gert and sire was a Saler, she is nice! We don't have a lot of big shows around here but I took her to three this year. At our county fair she won Grand Champion Commercial Female, then she got 2nd out of 20 at the next show and the last show I took her to she got 1st out of 5, and she is the calmest heifer I have ever had to work with. I placed in the top 3 with her in showmanship at all three shows I went to. I bet that's hard for some of yall to believe since Salers are supposedly the craziest cattle around, and she has Brahman influence! :shock:
I cant ever get pictures to come up in the photogallery or I would post some of her.
 
capparelli":2ng4rnq7 said:
I have a show heifer who's dam was a Gert and sire was a Saler, she is nice! We don't have a lot of big shows around here but I took her to three this year. At our county fair she won Grand Champion Commercial Female, then she got 2nd out of 20 at the next show and the last show I took her to she got 1st out of 5, and she is the calmest heifer I have ever had to work with. I placed in the top 3 with her in showmanship at all three shows I went to. I bet that's hard for some of yall to believe since Salers are supposedly the craziest cattle around, and she has Brahman influence! :shock:
I cant ever get pictures to come up in the photogallery or I would post some of her.

One thing to remember is there is good and bad of every breed, no matter what anyone might tell ya! ;-)
 
Rocky Vess, of Winrock Farms in Arkansas, has crossed
purebred Gerts with Murray Greys. He was wanting to
start a program to reduce frame while maintaining muscle
or increasing hindquarter. He was extremely pleased with
the result but for the color. He could not maintain the
red color.....all chocolates as I understand. He sure got
some nice females from us and I wish we could buy them
back.
Rocky had the first Gert bull that scored a perfect 4 stars
on the Bovigen dna test (when they had two stars for
marbling and two for tenderness)---the bull was syndicated
I think. They had a field day a couple of years ago & a
lady working for Bovigen attended---told me that the
crosses really looked good. I'd like to go see them.
 
I see alot for Winrock in the Santa Gertrudis journal that my son gets.
The 3 heifers my son has are as different as they can be on size, his first is short and stocky and a very easy keeper. THe second one has a huge frame and is hard to keep weight on and his newest one is between the 2.
We have AI the short one to a tall bull hoping to get some size out of the calf, and the biggest we will AI to a short stocky bull.
We only go to 2 shows a year, nothing is every close for us or at the wrong time, the one I really would like to go to is the day our county fair starts so that wont' work.
At our county fair his heifer will win her class because no one around here has gerts, I wish there was a little competition. He will take his first cow/calf pair this year and we will see how he does.
We go to a show every fall and his large frame heifer came in second last year.
 
OK Jeanne":2caasspy said:
Rocky Vess, of Winrock Farms in Arkansas, has crossed
purebred Gerts with Murray Greys. He was wanting to
start a program to reduce frame while maintaining muscle
or increasing hindquarter. He was extremely pleased with
the result but for the color. He could not maintain the
red color.....all chocolates as I understand. He sure got
some nice females from us and I wish we could buy them
back.
Rocky had the first Gert bull that scored a perfect 4 stars
on the Bovigen dna test (when they had two stars for
marbling and two for tenderness)---the bull was syndicated
I think. They had a field day a couple of years ago & a
lady working for Bovigen attended---told me that the
crosses really looked good. I'd like to go see them.

Rocky is a really good man. He will help anybody that asks.
 
we have the same problem here with the market says too much ear and they arent' black.
Our son will sell at a "show and sale" in Sept, it's a very big deal for the kids, there are adults that sell too but mostly kids and they get decent prices.
I have to be honest when I first saw one of the old gert cows that my hubby had years ago I thought they were the ugliest animal ever. Now several years later I have grown to appreciate them alot. One of the nicest things I have found at least to help me, is the fitting for show, there is none! Don't get me wrong they have so many Great qualities. I think the cattle with all the hair for shows are fine but I would much rather get a gert ready to show.
We had one of his heifers AI to Patriot last year, she aborted on New Years Day at 6 months. Getting ready to AI to Yogi.
Have one to Top Gun and the other to Patriot. Hopefully we can get some decent calves next season.
 
Beefmaster breeders have always been allowed to "grade up" from existing stock with the approval of BBU inspectors at each stage. Color is not one of the requirements for approval by BBU. So if you start with Angus cattle, you can get black Beefmasters. Personally, I thought the Beefmaster herdbook should have been closed a long time ago, but since the Beefmaster breed is really more about the six essentials than anything else, I guess arguing over color in that breed doesn't make a lot of sense. On the other hand, selecting for black color goes against the principles of the six essentials and really should not be practiced in the Beefmaster breed, IMO.
 
Gert Breeder here. We just returned from our National Jr Heifer show....it would have been a long way to south Texas from Indiana! It will be in Albuquerque NM next year, a long way for all of us. You should really try to make it. Your son would have a great time. I know mine do!
 
gertfan":1i7ezbxt said:
any other Santa Gertrudis breeders?
I am not a big fan of gerts, but I know that when I went to Texas to the King Ranch in 2004, I saw a whole herd of gerts. Gerts were developed in Texas back in the early 1900's. THe King Ranch is also the biggest Ranch in the United States and I think it may be the biggest ranch in the world. I was told that the King Ranch is 828,000 acres. :cboy:
 

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