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Just wondering if I had to have a chute to AI my beef cows or what. I have automatic headlocks that I used to AI my holsteins with but was wondering how the beef would be in them. They use the headlocks daily now so getting them in them is not a problem. I am actually wondering about them going side to side with my arm inside... I seldom had a problem with the holsteins moving around at all to AI but I don't know about the beef. I have 13 to AI and they are very easy to work and are calm. Just don't know how much I'll up their excitement when I start prodding...
 
You will be fine, thats all I use is a headgate.
I like that better than a chute, but then I like ilittle movement just to keep things going along...
Really though if they are calm and easy to work you will be fine with just a headgate.
MD
 
I never use the headgate when I AI, just let them stand behind the headgate with a bar or chain behind them just above the hocks. Once your arm is inside, they usually stand still.
 
KNERSIE":22uv7vc0 said:
I never use the headgate when I AI, just let them stand behind the headgate with a bar or chain behind them just above the hocks. Once your arm is inside, they usually stand still.
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Ahh the less is more approach.
I like it.
 
redfornow":3k6n756h said:
KNERSIE":3k6n756h said:
I never use the headgate when I AI, just let them stand behind the headgate with a bar or chain behind them just above the hocks. Once your arm is inside, they usually stand still.
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Ahh the less is more approach.
I like it.
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the headgate makes my cattle, especially heifers more nervous, I want to keep them as calm as possible to increase conception rates.
 
They recomend a dark box, enclosed chut, for AI. I have found that another cow in front of them works great. I leave the cow in front and allow the AI'd cow to exit via a side gate, then bring in another cow for AI.
The calmer the cow the better the success rate.
 
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Personally I have had my elbow flexed the wrong way by a cow who did not appreciated what i was trying to do for her, where she could move side to side and it is not an experience I wish to repeat. I had bred a lot of cows in headlock situations but it only took one to hurt me.

I raise my heifers feeding daily in headlocks so they are used to them. but I breed them in the chute.
 
When the calves are going through the weaning process they have to go through the chute to get to the grain then out a gate back into the pasture. It's made a world of difference on making them easier to handle. But, there aren;t any of them that really look forward to going down the alleyway. Once they're started it's not a problem it's just tough sometimes to get them to start. Cows being cows, sometimes one will just balk and be hard to move. Vet alwasy gives me a bad time about my wild cows and the lack of flight zone. I can crank their tails to a fare the well and sometimes they'll move and sometimes they won't. All he has to do is grab a tail and they move.
I've AIed cows in about ecery possible restaint possible, I prefer to head lock them in the chute or the grain wagon stantion. Cows are so used to be caught they half the time won;t trip the auto catch. They just walk up and stick there head through and stand there.

dun
 
Bred my first Angus heifer last night while she stood in the headlocks eating some fine stemmed hay. She never even moved. I guess sometimes I "over worry" about things when I should use the "less is more" method as someone said. Now I have to wait 21 days and hope for the best...
 
millstreaminn":2eaxuxrd said:
Bred my first Angus heifer last night while she stood in the headlocks eating some fine stemmed hay. She never even moved. I guess sometimes I "over worry" about things when I should use the "less is more" method as someone said. Now I have to wait 21 days and hope for the best...
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Individual cows behave, well, as indivdiuals. I bred cows tied to a tree in the pasture, standing in an alleway, in the cute but not head caught, chute and head caught and a bunch of others. Some are well behaved, others will back over the top of you if they're not caught. Had one that layed down as soon as you toughed her butt.
Congratulations, hopefully she won;t be back in this year
 
I was worried about the same thing. I kept reading that you should have a separate chute system that you use just for AI so that the cows don't relate it to bad experiences (needles). We don't have that. I found that a bucket of oats keeps them still and gets them up the chute to stand nicely.
 
millstreaminn":1qy9kgyh said:
Bred my first Angus heifer last night while she stood in the headlocks eating some fine stemmed hay. She never even moved. I guess sometimes I "over worry" about things when I should use the "less is more" method as someone said. Now I have to wait 21 days and hope for the best...
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Hope she caught for you.:)
 

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