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<blockquote data-quote="Oldtimer" data-source="post: 1262693" data-attributes="member: 97"><p>Thanks Dave... You are right- these heifers were roughed thru the winter- and the way they have been cycling once they got on green grass- I'll bet they are all bred up... I'm kind of used to rough wintered and non pampered heifers- because some of those we bought from Cole Creek were actually rougher then these as they don't pamper theirs either- and they grew into great cows... I found out that in the long run I think it pays off- as it makes them better range cows that will get out and rustle to survive rather than stand around the feedbunk bellering for feed... And still being all haired up makes them look even worse- but at the time I took these pictures we were still getting freezing temps at night on this pasture up by the Canadian line...(In fact we've had freezing temps up until last week-- altho this weekend they are predicting temps near 100- the joys of the diversity of living on the Great American Desert ;-) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> ) </p><p></p><p>These double and triple Bannon of Wye granddaughters are kind of my experiment... From what I found from the same bloodline bull calves I saved is that they grow out much the same way... Fast growing calves- that put on frame til they are yearlings- and then stop growing frame but then start adding muscle ... If you're not used to forage raised maternal bloodline bulls they look gangly as yearlings- long and thin with less muscle then the other sired ones...I am hoping this slower maturing pattern is a sign of longevity and maternal traits... If you know Wye cattle this growth pattern and trait is common amongst those cattle... And with the old Bannon of Wye having shown his ability to produce some great maternal cattle- I'm hoping his bloodlines will show thru...</p><p></p><p>Gizmom- I agree with 406 being light in the rear end ... Like I said- I put some of this to the growth pattern of the Wye cattle.. 406 is the only one that has Bannon of Wye showing up 3 times on her papers... Hopefully in the years ahead we will see if this lineage clicks or not... Or like Dave said- she can always be culled.... Like the saying goes " The good thing about breeding cattle is you can eat your mistakes"... ;-) </p><p></p><p>Part of the reason we kept this heifer is because of the performance of her mother and grandmother.. </p><p></p><p>406 mother - L B B Mary 01X last fall... She is a 4 frame cow that maintains her condition well..This picture was taken a month after weaning...</p><p><a href="http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_1435_zpscfbdf495.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_1435_zpscfbdf495.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>This spring with this years heifer calf sired by Juanada Rito</p><p><a href="http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_0118_zpsd3pi6rug.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_0118_zpsd3pi6rug.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Her grandmother W C R Mary 845U #16175571 and another heifer calf that will probably go back into the herd.. 845U is a 4 frame cow that brings in one of the biggest calves every year.. She has a birth ratio of 96 and weaning ratio of 108... She is a Bannon of Wye UMF 8420 daughter.. Her last years bull calf has Bannon 3 times on his papers, weaned at 640, and was sold to a commercial ranch north of us- so hopefully I can see how he develops....</p><p>The Bannon daughters have pretty heads and great feet and udders.... </p><p><a href="http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_0116_zpstcjobvia.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_0116_zpstcjobvia.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldtimer, post: 1262693, member: 97"] Thanks Dave... You are right- these heifers were roughed thru the winter- and the way they have been cycling once they got on green grass- I'll bet they are all bred up... I'm kind of used to rough wintered and non pampered heifers- because some of those we bought from Cole Creek were actually rougher then these as they don't pamper theirs either- and they grew into great cows... I found out that in the long run I think it pays off- as it makes them better range cows that will get out and rustle to survive rather than stand around the feedbunk bellering for feed... And still being all haired up makes them look even worse- but at the time I took these pictures we were still getting freezing temps at night on this pasture up by the Canadian line...(In fact we've had freezing temps up until last week-- altho this weekend they are predicting temps near 100- the joys of the diversity of living on the Great American Desert ;-) :D ) These double and triple Bannon of Wye granddaughters are kind of my experiment... From what I found from the same bloodline bull calves I saved is that they grow out much the same way... Fast growing calves- that put on frame til they are yearlings- and then stop growing frame but then start adding muscle ... If you're not used to forage raised maternal bloodline bulls they look gangly as yearlings- long and thin with less muscle then the other sired ones...I am hoping this slower maturing pattern is a sign of longevity and maternal traits... If you know Wye cattle this growth pattern and trait is common amongst those cattle... And with the old Bannon of Wye having shown his ability to produce some great maternal cattle- I'm hoping his bloodlines will show thru... Gizmom- I agree with 406 being light in the rear end ... Like I said- I put some of this to the growth pattern of the Wye cattle.. 406 is the only one that has Bannon of Wye showing up 3 times on her papers... Hopefully in the years ahead we will see if this lineage clicks or not... Or like Dave said- she can always be culled.... Like the saying goes " The good thing about breeding cattle is you can eat your mistakes"... ;-) Part of the reason we kept this heifer is because of the performance of her mother and grandmother.. 406 mother - L B B Mary 01X last fall... She is a 4 frame cow that maintains her condition well..This picture was taken a month after weaning... [url=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_1435_zpscfbdf495.jpg.html][img]http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_1435_zpscfbdf495.jpg[/img][/url] This spring with this years heifer calf sired by Juanada Rito [url=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_0118_zpsd3pi6rug.jpg.html][img]http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_0118_zpsd3pi6rug.jpg[/img][/url] Her grandmother W C R Mary 845U #16175571 and another heifer calf that will probably go back into the herd.. 845U is a 4 frame cow that brings in one of the biggest calves every year.. She has a birth ratio of 96 and weaning ratio of 108... She is a Bannon of Wye UMF 8420 daughter.. Her last years bull calf has Bannon 3 times on his papers, weaned at 640, and was sold to a commercial ranch north of us- so hopefully I can see how he develops.... The Bannon daughters have pretty heads and great feet and udders.... [url=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/Oldtimer_2010/media/IMG_0116_zpstcjobvia.jpg.html][img]http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/Oldtimer_2010/IMG_0116_zpstcjobvia.jpg[/img][/url] [/QUOTE]
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