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<blockquote data-quote="Herefords.US" data-source="post: 279938" data-attributes="member: 3972"><p>Thanks for your reply, CC. That hasn't been my experience at all! Granted, my herd bull is only 50% Remitall breeding (a son of Keynote 20X out of a Line 1 cow), but he is the gentlest bull I've ever been around and he passes that trait on to his calves. And they grow as well! The drought forced me to sell my calves early this year and they averaged a little over 500 lbs (auction sale weight) at right at 5 months of age, average. Not Remitall numbers, but not bad for drought ridden Texas with no creep.</p><p></p><p>Also, I've calved 25+ heifers to him with no calving problems except one moderate pull on an 89 lb bull calf from a heifer that had a 90 lb birthweight herself. That's the largest calf I've had from him. Most have been around 80 lb.</p><p></p><p>His first 4 daughters (of mine) have recently calved for the first time and they are extraordinary, all of which is making me consider putting another bull of Remitall breeding back on them.</p><p></p><p>When I've related my experience to other breeders, whose opinion I respect, they have almost been unanimous in expressing the same opinion that SaskHerf and txag have in this thread. That the results I'm seeing are a result of management and environment and had these same cattle been in Montana or Canada, I might have well seen BWs of 10 lb or more average.</p><p></p><p>I don't know - I just know it's worked for me. My concern is that these cattle already have BW EPDs above breed average. Breeding them back to a bull that has a +7 or +9 BW will increase that. How acceptable would those BW EPDs be to other breeders and commercial cattlemen? Is actual experience or an arbitrary number the most important information?</p><p></p><p>George</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herefords.US, post: 279938, member: 3972"] Thanks for your reply, CC. That hasn't been my experience at all! Granted, my herd bull is only 50% Remitall breeding (a son of Keynote 20X out of a Line 1 cow), but he is the gentlest bull I've ever been around and he passes that trait on to his calves. And they grow as well! The drought forced me to sell my calves early this year and they averaged a little over 500 lbs (auction sale weight) at right at 5 months of age, average. Not Remitall numbers, but not bad for drought ridden Texas with no creep. Also, I've calved 25+ heifers to him with no calving problems except one moderate pull on an 89 lb bull calf from a heifer that had a 90 lb birthweight herself. That's the largest calf I've had from him. Most have been around 80 lb. His first 4 daughters (of mine) have recently calved for the first time and they are extraordinary, all of which is making me consider putting another bull of Remitall breeding back on them. When I've related my experience to other breeders, whose opinion I respect, they have almost been unanimous in expressing the same opinion that SaskHerf and txag have in this thread. That the results I'm seeing are a result of management and environment and had these same cattle been in Montana or Canada, I might have well seen BWs of 10 lb or more average. I don't know - I just know it's worked for me. My concern is that these cattle already have BW EPDs above breed average. Breeding them back to a bull that has a +7 or +9 BW will increase that. How acceptable would those BW EPDs be to other breeders and commercial cattlemen? Is actual experience or an arbitrary number the most important information? George [/QUOTE]
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