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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1813695" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>I agree. and this man doesn't claim them to be registered. Here's how what he does works <strong>:</strong> I pulled up to the sale barn that Wednesaday morning witjh some of these pairs on my trailer. So a couple of guys I know came up to me and said " Woah, Warren! Where did you get those giant Angus from?" I said "they aren't Angus." 1 dude said " What are they, Simmental?" The other one had climbed up to look in my trailer and said " No those ain;t Simmental. What are they..Chi-Angus?" So I told him they were actually 1/2 Simm and 1/2 Chi-Angus.</p><p></p><p>Them: " No sh&t! Simm bull and Chi-Angus cow? Or the other way around?</p><p>"</p><p>Me: "Some of both. Hang on and let me get my briefcase out and I will tell you". So I pull over so others can unload and get out the binders he had given me. I then told them to call out a tag number., and I would tell them which cross it was.</p><p></p><p>Them: "What color were the Simm cows? Any red? Or bwf? "</p><p></p><p>Me: "Homozygous black, and polled. All of them. Here is a copy of each Simm cow's papers and a pic". And there is a copy of the Simm bull's papers in the folder for the ones with Chi-Angus dams. They are all homo black and polled as well"</p><p></p><p>I told them about how he does his tag numbers,. so they could tell the cow in the pic was actually the dam of whatever cow they are asking about. Then they asked about the calves' sire. And I showed them the copy of the BM bull's papers that was in each cow's clear plastic sleeve. Along with the calf's birthdate, birth weight, and health records. The BM bull was homo black and polled as well. I told them the bull has been running with these cows a month , and that the owner was gonna have them preg tested there. They walked around the trailer looking in at all of them, and talking, so I let them alone. When they got back around to me, they asked "How much?" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Sale barn owner came up about that time, and asked what we were doing. I told him who's cows they were, and he said "Oh yeah He called me and said he was sending some documentation by you to be announced by the auctioneer tomorrow". I said well just hang on there and let's get him on the speaker phone while we are all here together, and see if we can't get it all done today!". And we did!</p><p></p><p>So, that is why he does this documentation like this. He isn't trying to start a registry or anything. Every day people bring , say, black baldies, claiming they are out of angus cows and Hereford bulls. You just have to take their word for it that this what they are, how old they are, vet records, and trust they just didn't buy them at a sale the day before. All of that doubt and worry and suspicion is eliminated by doing this simple and easy little thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1813695, member: 40587"] I agree. and this man doesn't claim them to be registered. Here's how what he does works [B]:[/B] I pulled up to the sale barn that Wednesaday morning witjh some of these pairs on my trailer. So a couple of guys I know came up to me and said " Woah, Warren! Where did you get those giant Angus from?" I said "they aren't Angus." 1 dude said " What are they, Simmental?" The other one had climbed up to look in my trailer and said " No those ain;t Simmental. What are they..Chi-Angus?" So I told him they were actually 1/2 Simm and 1/2 Chi-Angus. Them: " No sh&t! Simm bull and Chi-Angus cow? Or the other way around? " Me: "Some of both. Hang on and let me get my briefcase out and I will tell you". So I pull over so others can unload and get out the binders he had given me. I then told them to call out a tag number., and I would tell them which cross it was. Them: "What color were the Simm cows? Any red? Or bwf? " Me: "Homozygous black, and polled. All of them. Here is a copy of each Simm cow's papers and a pic". And there is a copy of the Simm bull's papers in the folder for the ones with Chi-Angus dams. They are all homo black and polled as well" I told them about how he does his tag numbers,. so they could tell the cow in the pic was actually the dam of whatever cow they are asking about. Then they asked about the calves' sire. And I showed them the copy of the BM bull's papers that was in each cow's clear plastic sleeve. Along with the calf's birthdate, birth weight, and health records. The BM bull was homo black and polled as well. I told them the bull has been running with these cows a month , and that the owner was gonna have them preg tested there. They walked around the trailer looking in at all of them, and talking, so I let them alone. When they got back around to me, they asked "How much?" :) Sale barn owner came up about that time, and asked what we were doing. I told him who's cows they were, and he said "Oh yeah He called me and said he was sending some documentation by you to be announced by the auctioneer tomorrow". I said well just hang on there and let's get him on the speaker phone while we are all here together, and see if we can't get it all done today!". And we did! So, that is why he does this documentation like this. He isn't trying to start a registry or anything. Every day people bring , say, black baldies, claiming they are out of angus cows and Hereford bulls. You just have to take their word for it that this what they are, how old they are, vet records, and trust they just didn't buy them at a sale the day before. All of that doubt and worry and suspicion is eliminated by doing this simple and easy little thing. [/QUOTE]
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