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<blockquote data-quote="Travlr" data-source="post: 1813634" data-attributes="member: 42463"><p>I'll try to keep this short...</p><p></p><p>Crossbred cattle can be great and crossbreeding can produce impressive results. And if someone wants to do the work to document their breeding so they can inform people buying their product, more power to them. I documented numbers and breeding decisions to sell my commercial replacement heifers and that was definitely part of the dollars I got when selling them. But claiming they are registered, even if it was something I could have done, is not something I would do. It feels too much like gilding the lily to make more money at the expense of any real value. </p><p></p><p>Registration was once reserved for cattle of similar genetic origin and type. A registered animal was once a reliable source of future breeding results. Breeds had specific abilities and characteristics and if you chose them for a breeding program you could count on what you got.</p><p></p><p>Beefmaster are a good example of an incomplete and premature registration, and claims of being a "breed". You can buy a hundred Beefmaster and get a hundred animals that look like they are out of a crossbred herd. Tall, lightly muscled, eared cattle with solid color, or short, plump, white faced cattle with no ear and in a range of red (lately some black), or brindle, roan, brockle face, nothing consistent in terms of color or type. I'm not knocking Beefmaster as performers in the field, but you have to be careful choosing a Beefmaster bull because you don't really know what kind of calves you can expect. Beefmaster had no breed standard for color or type, instead opting for mothering ability and efficiency.</p><p></p><p>But with consistent cattle, the European breeds, You can pretty much count on what you will be getting just by looking at them and knowing what they produce. This is the strength of registered cattle, to be wells of genetic consistency that people can count on so they can make choices that lead to reliable results.</p><p></p><p>You can put together a herd of consistent commercial crossbred cows and get good results by careful selection of pureblood bulls. I've done it. But it's harder and you have to really know what you're doing and be willing to live with more mistakes. You can buy a ready made herd of consistent heifers, but as they age out and need to be replaced you would need to be careful with what you are replacing with to maintain consistency. Adding a "registered" crossbred bull into the mix is going to give inconsistent results compared to a bull with genetic consistency.</p><p></p><p>And consistent calves sell better than a mixed bunch. And isn't that the highest priority for most of us as cattle producers? Producing the best product and getting the most at the point of sale is our affirmation of what we are doing right.</p><p></p><p>Registering crossbred animals may make money for those doing it, but for buyers paying the extra price they are getting a potential can of worms... and they may pay for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Travlr, post: 1813634, member: 42463"] I'll try to keep this short... Crossbred cattle can be great and crossbreeding can produce impressive results. And if someone wants to do the work to document their breeding so they can inform people buying their product, more power to them. I documented numbers and breeding decisions to sell my commercial replacement heifers and that was definitely part of the dollars I got when selling them. But claiming they are registered, even if it was something I could have done, is not something I would do. It feels too much like gilding the lily to make more money at the expense of any real value. Registration was once reserved for cattle of similar genetic origin and type. A registered animal was once a reliable source of future breeding results. Breeds had specific abilities and characteristics and if you chose them for a breeding program you could count on what you got. Beefmaster are a good example of an incomplete and premature registration, and claims of being a "breed". You can buy a hundred Beefmaster and get a hundred animals that look like they are out of a crossbred herd. Tall, lightly muscled, eared cattle with solid color, or short, plump, white faced cattle with no ear and in a range of red (lately some black), or brindle, roan, brockle face, nothing consistent in terms of color or type. I'm not knocking Beefmaster as performers in the field, but you have to be careful choosing a Beefmaster bull because you don't really know what kind of calves you can expect. Beefmaster had no breed standard for color or type, instead opting for mothering ability and efficiency. But with consistent cattle, the European breeds, You can pretty much count on what you will be getting just by looking at them and knowing what they produce. This is the strength of registered cattle, to be wells of genetic consistency that people can count on so they can make choices that lead to reliable results. You can put together a herd of consistent commercial crossbred cows and get good results by careful selection of pureblood bulls. I've done it. But it's harder and you have to really know what you're doing and be willing to live with more mistakes. You can buy a ready made herd of consistent heifers, but as they age out and need to be replaced you would need to be careful with what you are replacing with to maintain consistency. Adding a "registered" crossbred bull into the mix is going to give inconsistent results compared to a bull with genetic consistency. And consistent calves sell better than a mixed bunch. And isn't that the highest priority for most of us as cattle producers? Producing the best product and getting the most at the point of sale is our affirmation of what we are doing right. Registering crossbred animals may make money for those doing it, but for buyers paying the extra price they are getting a potential can of worms... and they may pay for it. [/QUOTE]
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