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<blockquote data-quote="simme" data-source="post: 1813064" data-attributes="member: 40418"><p>I will offer an alternate view. "Papers" are a record of ancestors, not evidence of genetic purity or superiority. The idea that the old breeds are "pure" is just wrong. Cows were not created with papers. A few hundred years ago, similar cattle in an area were accepted into a breed registry. Do you think that those first cattle accepted into the angus or hereford registry did not have any crossbreeding behind them through the ages? They were all angus or hereford for thousands of years even before any written records were kept? I suspect the situation is no different than the people in that area. I suspect there was some visitation and relocation in all those genetics.</p><p></p><p>If anyone thinks that American simmental, Simangus, beefmasters, brangus, etc are "polluted", they just need to be enlightened. They have "papers" and were developed to meet a need for cattle that excel in an environment. "polluted"? I don't think so. Some of those "pure" angus and polled herefords of the 50's and 60's have probably benefited from "pollution" as well. </p><p></p><p>Angus association says that everything needed for cattle is in the angus breed. No other genetics needed. Progressive breed associations recommend cross breeding. It gives longevity, heterosis, fertility and such. </p><p></p><p>Just my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simme, post: 1813064, member: 40418"] I will offer an alternate view. "Papers" are a record of ancestors, not evidence of genetic purity or superiority. The idea that the old breeds are "pure" is just wrong. Cows were not created with papers. A few hundred years ago, similar cattle in an area were accepted into a breed registry. Do you think that those first cattle accepted into the angus or hereford registry did not have any crossbreeding behind them through the ages? They were all angus or hereford for thousands of years even before any written records were kept? I suspect the situation is no different than the people in that area. I suspect there was some visitation and relocation in all those genetics. If anyone thinks that American simmental, Simangus, beefmasters, brangus, etc are "polluted", they just need to be enlightened. They have "papers" and were developed to meet a need for cattle that excel in an environment. "polluted"? I don't think so. Some of those "pure" angus and polled herefords of the 50's and 60's have probably benefited from "pollution" as well. Angus association says that everything needed for cattle is in the angus breed. No other genetics needed. Progressive breed associations recommend cross breeding. It gives longevity, heterosis, fertility and such. Just my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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