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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1813007" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>I recently took some cows and heifers to a sale for man Clay was working for. He has registerd CHi-Angus cows that he breeds ( AI) to Reg blck Simm bulls and reg black Simm cows that he breeds to reg Chi-angus bulls ( AI) . He uses sexed semen to produce heifers, These heifers are essentially commercial cows, but he sends a copy of the sire and dams papers with each one. Any he hasn't sold by 16 mos of age, he breeds to a reg black Beefmaster bull, WHen he sells these bred, or wioth a calf at their ie, o0r 3 N 1 deals, he includes q copy of the BM bull's papers, too. He gave me several binder notebooks with these copies in them, to give to the sale barn owner so he could stop the sale and talk about them when they got in the ring. A man came to me when I was waiting to unload, and asked about them. I showed him the paper work. He called the owner and made a deal $3500 for the pairs. And he paid the sale barn fees. I doubt the man knew anything at all about the Chi-ANg or black Simm bloodlines, and surely not the BM bull bloodlines. But, having these records showed the buyer that these were not culls, and that the breeder knew what he was doing. He included a sheet that showed their birth date, weaning weights, birth weights, birth date of the calf, breeding dates and vet records . This made the buyers confident in the purchase. Plus, these were VERY good cattle. No one who raises their own commercial replacements, that I have seen, have ever produced anything even close to the quality of these cattle. So yeah, papers can make a difference in price even at a local commercial cow sale. You knew everything about these cows that you would have known had you raised them yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1813007, member: 40587"] I recently took some cows and heifers to a sale for man Clay was working for. He has registerd CHi-Angus cows that he breeds ( AI) to Reg blck Simm bulls and reg black Simm cows that he breeds to reg Chi-angus bulls ( AI) . He uses sexed semen to produce heifers, These heifers are essentially commercial cows, but he sends a copy of the sire and dams papers with each one. Any he hasn't sold by 16 mos of age, he breeds to a reg black Beefmaster bull, WHen he sells these bred, or wioth a calf at their ie, o0r 3 N 1 deals, he includes q copy of the BM bull's papers, too. He gave me several binder notebooks with these copies in them, to give to the sale barn owner so he could stop the sale and talk about them when they got in the ring. A man came to me when I was waiting to unload, and asked about them. I showed him the paper work. He called the owner and made a deal $3500 for the pairs. And he paid the sale barn fees. I doubt the man knew anything at all about the Chi-ANg or black Simm bloodlines, and surely not the BM bull bloodlines. But, having these records showed the buyer that these were not culls, and that the breeder knew what he was doing. He included a sheet that showed their birth date, weaning weights, birth weights, birth date of the calf, breeding dates and vet records . This made the buyers confident in the purchase. Plus, these were VERY good cattle. No one who raises their own commercial replacements, that I have seen, have ever produced anything even close to the quality of these cattle. So yeah, papers can make a difference in price even at a local commercial cow sale. You knew everything about these cows that you would have known had you raised them yourself. [/QUOTE]
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