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<blockquote data-quote="cow pollinater" data-source="post: 829542" data-attributes="member: 14661"><p>They don't really see it that way and we wouldn't either if we were in their shoes. They are Mexican citizens and they live by Mexican law. If you or I were to get kicked out of Canada for something oddball that is against Canadian law, we'd wonder what the big deal was but we wouldn't feel like we did anything wrong... Law implies intent. Yes, they crossed the border but they follow implied intent since it isn't against their law and we aren't stopping them. It doesn't make them right but it does make them less wrong. :? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, more people will be more accepting of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They're already here. I know an ex-El Salvadorian gang member that came here for the same reason the Mexicans do, he wanted a different life and he's thankful to have it. He's one of the best that my big dairy customer has. He had an even harder time getting here than most because he had to make it through Mexico and the gangs there tried to kill him for being from El Salvador.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My experiance has been quite the oposite. One of my pastures borders a swap meet on one side and a carneceria a half mile down the road... The ONLY times anyone in that neighborhood has ever had to call the sheriff for ANYTHING, it's been the white crackhead at the end of the street.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>:lol2: Follow the money... Labor is a huge tax write-off. It is cheaper to pay legal wages over the table to someone that you can't prove to be an illegal and write it off on your taxes than it is to pay anywhere near similar wages cash under the table. Plus the likelyhood of getting in trouble drops to near zero. Cash under the table is for teenagers who don't understand finances yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll give you this one. This is the real downside to having them here. We do have the same problems with many legal residents, however, so the problem doesn't just disappear by closing the border.</p><p></p><p>I will also conceed that you are much closer to the border than I am. The illegals that make it up to where I am are more likely coming here for work since we have an abundance of that. I suspect that the criminal elements would migrate to where there is an abundance of oppertunity for them to succeed in as well... Apperantly that isn't here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cow pollinater, post: 829542, member: 14661"] They don't really see it that way and we wouldn't either if we were in their shoes. They are Mexican citizens and they live by Mexican law. If you or I were to get kicked out of Canada for something oddball that is against Canadian law, we'd wonder what the big deal was but we wouldn't feel like we did anything wrong... Law implies intent. Yes, they crossed the border but they follow implied intent since it isn't against their law and we aren't stopping them. It doesn't make them right but it does make them less wrong. :? I agree, more people will be more accepting of them. They're already here. I know an ex-El Salvadorian gang member that came here for the same reason the Mexicans do, he wanted a different life and he's thankful to have it. He's one of the best that my big dairy customer has. He had an even harder time getting here than most because he had to make it through Mexico and the gangs there tried to kill him for being from El Salvador. My experiance has been quite the oposite. One of my pastures borders a swap meet on one side and a carneceria a half mile down the road... The ONLY times anyone in that neighborhood has ever had to call the sheriff for ANYTHING, it's been the white crackhead at the end of the street. :lol2: Follow the money... Labor is a huge tax write-off. It is cheaper to pay legal wages over the table to someone that you can't prove to be an illegal and write it off on your taxes than it is to pay anywhere near similar wages cash under the table. Plus the likelyhood of getting in trouble drops to near zero. Cash under the table is for teenagers who don't understand finances yet. I'll give you this one. This is the real downside to having them here. We do have the same problems with many legal residents, however, so the problem doesn't just disappear by closing the border. I will also conceed that you are much closer to the border than I am. The illegals that make it up to where I am are more likely coming here for work since we have an abundance of that. I suspect that the criminal elements would migrate to where there is an abundance of oppertunity for them to succeed in as well... Apperantly that isn't here. [/QUOTE]
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