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<blockquote data-quote="1848" data-source="post: 70863" data-attributes="member: 1303"><p>[quote "frankie"]The American Angus Association had nothing to do with the establishment of the Brangus breed. Nor have they had anything to do with the AngusPlus breed. In fact, they turned down a request to maintain AngusPlus herd records.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>In my dialogue "concerning Brangus", I belive I referenced Angus "people" and Angus "breed", not Angus "Association" (even though that is what makes up an Assoc.)</p><p></p><p>It is too bad that the Angus Assoc. will not support AngusPlus, as far as record keeping; there loss. Imagine the data they could obtain with doing somethng like this, especially seeing the AHA allowing other stock to be used for collection of data on their bulls this way...with adjustments of course.</p><p></p><p>In any case, we cannot mistake the fact that both breeds you refer too have the word "Angus" in them :shock: ! ...and it did take some "purebred" Angus breeders (probably Angus Assoc. members who had registered stock) to come together with the "purebred" Brahman breeders and form the breed. I'm guessing these founders weren't just average commercial cattlemen who just had their own registered Angus lying around :roll<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Especially when they needed the genetically best "purebred" stock to get the phenotype, and blood percentages right in their crossing of the breeds. Maybe I'm missing something here. Were you actually offended by the fact that Brangus animals had their roots establised, in part by Angus breeders?</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="1848, post: 70863, member: 1303"] [quote "frankie"]The American Angus Association had nothing to do with the establishment of the Brangus breed. Nor have they had anything to do with the AngusPlus breed. In fact, they turned down a request to maintain AngusPlus herd records.[/quote] In my dialogue "concerning Brangus", I belive I referenced Angus "people" and Angus "breed", not Angus "Association" (even though that is what makes up an Assoc.) It is too bad that the Angus Assoc. will not support AngusPlus, as far as record keeping; there loss. Imagine the data they could obtain with doing somethng like this, especially seeing the AHA allowing other stock to be used for collection of data on their bulls this way...with adjustments of course. In any case, we cannot mistake the fact that both breeds you refer too have the word "Angus" in them :shock: ! ...and it did take some "purebred" Angus breeders (probably Angus Assoc. members who had registered stock) to come together with the "purebred" Brahman breeders and form the breed. I'm guessing these founders weren't just average commercial cattlemen who just had their own registered Angus lying around :roll:) Especially when they needed the genetically best "purebred" stock to get the phenotype, and blood percentages right in their crossing of the breeds. Maybe I'm missing something here. Were you actually offended by the fact that Brangus animals had their roots establised, in part by Angus breeders? [/QUOTE]
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