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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 6123"><p>Probably no one knows the ins and outs of the diluter gene than someone trying to raise black Simmys out traditional or red cows with a diluter gene. Can you get a white calf out of two black parents? With your silver calf I suspect your horned fullblood bull must carry the diluter gene. What's the sire and dam out of on that bull?</p><p></p><p>> Even in the registered cattle</p><p>> business the dilluter gene plays</p><p>> its course, and is nearly</p><p>> impossible to fight. I have</p><p>> simmentals and angus, all colors.</p><p>> I am aiming for black cattle to</p><p>> show, but i do enjoy my reds. to</p><p>> beat the dilluter gene we often</p><p>> breed red yellow brown tan or any</p><p>> color that is obviously dilluted,</p><p>> to a purebred red simmy bull, that</p><p>> does not carry a dilluter gene,</p><p>> you should get a red calf, then</p><p>> breed the red calf to a Black</p><p>> homozygous simmental bull, and you</p><p>> should get black. when we do it</p><p>> this way we get more black then</p><p>> when we try to beat the system,</p><p>> and we get fewer browns and</p><p>> silvers which are even less</p><p>> desired then red with spots. pay</p><p>> attention to the ancestry, but</p><p>> sometimes, you get totally</p><p>> stumped...how about a silver calf,</p><p>> out of a brown cow, with 2 black</p><p>> parents, both grand parents on</p><p>> each side one is red one is</p><p>> black...the calf sire is a red</p><p>> horned fullblood...calf is silver</p><p>> with a white face....we expected</p><p>> red, it happens but its rare.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 6123"] Probably no one knows the ins and outs of the diluter gene than someone trying to raise black Simmys out traditional or red cows with a diluter gene. Can you get a white calf out of two black parents? With your silver calf I suspect your horned fullblood bull must carry the diluter gene. What's the sire and dam out of on that bull? > Even in the registered cattle > business the dilluter gene plays > its course, and is nearly > impossible to fight. I have > simmentals and angus, all colors. > I am aiming for black cattle to > show, but i do enjoy my reds. to > beat the dilluter gene we often > breed red yellow brown tan or any > color that is obviously dilluted, > to a purebred red simmy bull, that > does not carry a dilluter gene, > you should get a red calf, then > breed the red calf to a Black > homozygous simmental bull, and you > should get black. when we do it > this way we get more black then > when we try to beat the system, > and we get fewer browns and > silvers which are even less > desired then red with spots. pay > attention to the ancestry, but > sometimes, you get totally > stumped...how about a silver calf, > out of a brown cow, with 2 black > parents, both grand parents on > each side one is red one is > black...the calf sire is a red > horned fullblood...calf is silver > with a white face....we expected > red, it happens but its rare. [/QUOTE]
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