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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1846576" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>You are right ,KY Hills. I found a red Char FB group today, and there were a lot of websites and other FB pages on it for Char breeders that had red Chars. And sone with black Char too. Ads for the black Char bulls would list the percentage Char in them. 7/8th Char, and one listed as 15/16 Char, all said they were pb Char.</p><p></p><p>All the info on several sites, said that red Char were 100% Char, with the same attributes as white, just didn't have the dilute mutation. Several said that long ago in France , that Char were red. Occasionally one would have a dilute gene that made them tan. It said that people bred those to each other until they got the white ones with the double dilute genes. The white did nothing to hurt, change or enchance the Charolais in any way, people just thought they were prettier white. They said the reds were brought back by reversing thagt process... breeding tan to tan, and testing for the dilute genes, These are registered in the same association as white Charolais.</p><p></p><p>So yes, I think they will make a good terminal bull for those black Simm x Chi-Angus heifers. Dan brought up another good point, though, He said if it were him, he'd breed them first time to one of those homo for black and polled 15/16ths Black Herefords. He said that Continental x British heterosis would probably result in as much, if not more, growth than using a Char bull would. We will see. We are over a year away before breeding these heifers we haven't even gotten yet. I am thinking of all kinds of possibilities with these red Char and different kinds of black cattle</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1846576, member: 40587"] You are right ,KY Hills. I found a red Char FB group today, and there were a lot of websites and other FB pages on it for Char breeders that had red Chars. And sone with black Char too. Ads for the black Char bulls would list the percentage Char in them. 7/8th Char, and one listed as 15/16 Char, all said they were pb Char. All the info on several sites, said that red Char were 100% Char, with the same attributes as white, just didn't have the dilute mutation. Several said that long ago in France , that Char were red. Occasionally one would have a dilute gene that made them tan. It said that people bred those to each other until they got the white ones with the double dilute genes. The white did nothing to hurt, change or enchance the Charolais in any way, people just thought they were prettier white. They said the reds were brought back by reversing thagt process... breeding tan to tan, and testing for the dilute genes, These are registered in the same association as white Charolais. So yes, I think they will make a good terminal bull for those black Simm x Chi-Angus heifers. Dan brought up another good point, though, He said if it were him, he'd breed them first time to one of those homo for black and polled 15/16ths Black Herefords. He said that Continental x British heterosis would probably result in as much, if not more, growth than using a Char bull would. We will see. We are over a year away before breeding these heifers we haven't even gotten yet. I am thinking of all kinds of possibilities with these red Char and different kinds of black cattle [/QUOTE]
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