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<blockquote data-quote="Angus Cowman" data-source="post: 603612" data-attributes="member: 8829"><p>Ok lets put this in perspective </p><p>Jo you say you can not see pay 1500 or 1600 for a hfr I buy hfr pairs for this price </p><p>thsi yr my avg was $1525 in hfr pairs at this price it isn't any higher than keeping replacement hfrs </p><p>if a person actually does their math and keeps track of their expenses they will have at least $1200 and more like $1500 in that hfr by the time she has a calf and that is not counting the ones that don't work out or produce </p><p>I know guys will say oh I can raise a better hfr than I can buy but that is BS they are just not looking in the right places or the are looking with their eyes closed or they are trying to buy hfrs for $800 and that can't be done and get any quality or unifomity </p><p></p><p>I also agree with you Jo that if you are marketing beef thru a local sale barn and running a mixed herd of cows you can't afford to buy hfrs like that but as I stated on here before uniformity and carcass is what I am selling even though I am selling Beef and I have a different marketing avenue than most I usually receive 5-15 cents above market have no freight and no commission if I am selling feeders or if I retain ownership and feed them, my carcass premiums add alot to the equation </p><p></p><p>when I do cull any 3 or 4yr old cows I also get a premium for them also </p><p></p><p>I understand the avg cow/calf producer can't do this but I have made it work but it takes a little more investment and a little more marketing effort</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Angus Cowman, post: 603612, member: 8829"] Ok lets put this in perspective Jo you say you can not see pay 1500 or 1600 for a hfr I buy hfr pairs for this price thsi yr my avg was $1525 in hfr pairs at this price it isn't any higher than keeping replacement hfrs if a person actually does their math and keeps track of their expenses they will have at least $1200 and more like $1500 in that hfr by the time she has a calf and that is not counting the ones that don't work out or produce I know guys will say oh I can raise a better hfr than I can buy but that is BS they are just not looking in the right places or the are looking with their eyes closed or they are trying to buy hfrs for $800 and that can't be done and get any quality or unifomity I also agree with you Jo that if you are marketing beef thru a local sale barn and running a mixed herd of cows you can't afford to buy hfrs like that but as I stated on here before uniformity and carcass is what I am selling even though I am selling Beef and I have a different marketing avenue than most I usually receive 5-15 cents above market have no freight and no commission if I am selling feeders or if I retain ownership and feed them, my carcass premiums add alot to the equation when I do cull any 3 or 4yr old cows I also get a premium for them also I understand the avg cow/calf producer can't do this but I have made it work but it takes a little more investment and a little more marketing effort [/QUOTE]
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