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<blockquote data-quote="Angus Cowman" data-source="post: 602897" data-attributes="member: 8829"><p>actually less time than it takes a registered guy to make a profit on a $2000 reg cow :lol: </p><p></p><p>Ok lets look at #s the hfrs I bought this yr cost avg of $1525 all but 3 had calves by their side they are guaranteed to calve and I know what kind of calves they will throw in future yrs because of genetics in his herd</p><p></p><p>or I can go to the sale barn and give $1100-$1250 for bred hfrs don't know what they are other than by looking at them </p><p></p><p>lets say I buy 50 from both places </p><p>sale barn hfrs cost me $58,750 the ones off the ranch cost me $70,000 ok they are all bred hfrs no calfs on them the ones I get from the sale barn are supposed to be bred in 75 days they wind up taking 90 days to calve I pull 10 calves out of the sale barn cows and lose 3 also 5 of them don't calve at all </p><p></p><p>The ones off the ranch are bred for 60 days and calve out in 65 days I don't pull one and lose no calves because of birthing problems also 3 of them don't calf for some odd reason </p><p></p><p>sale barn cows I just lost 8 hfrs because of the calving probs so that cost me 8 x$1175=$8400</p><p></p><p>the ones off the ranch I sell the one that didn't calve and he refunds the diff from what I get at the sale barn so I didn't lose anything so my cost in the remaining ones is $65,800 the ones from the sale barn cost me $4000 after I sell them that is 8x$550=$4400 subtract that from the original cost of those 8 which was $8400 </p><p>sale barn cows$58750 - 4000=54750 in 42 cows for an avg price of $1303.57</p><p>ranch cows $70000-4200=$65800 in 47 cows for an avg price of$1400.00 and because he knows what my cows are he buys my calfs back at market or above and I pay no freight or commission so if the ranch calves weigh 550# and bring $1.05 that is $577.50pr hd if the sale barn calves weigh 525# and bring $1.02 that is $535.50 and then I pay commision and freight at $26.50 per hd $1113 so the sale barn calves netted $21378 and the ones from the ranch netted $27142.50 so it doesn't take as long to pay the difference when you put the pencil to it</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Angus Cowman, post: 602897, member: 8829"] actually less time than it takes a registered guy to make a profit on a $2000 reg cow :lol: Ok lets look at #s the hfrs I bought this yr cost avg of $1525 all but 3 had calves by their side they are guaranteed to calve and I know what kind of calves they will throw in future yrs because of genetics in his herd or I can go to the sale barn and give $1100-$1250 for bred hfrs don't know what they are other than by looking at them lets say I buy 50 from both places sale barn hfrs cost me $58,750 the ones off the ranch cost me $70,000 ok they are all bred hfrs no calfs on them the ones I get from the sale barn are supposed to be bred in 75 days they wind up taking 90 days to calve I pull 10 calves out of the sale barn cows and lose 3 also 5 of them don't calve at all The ones off the ranch are bred for 60 days and calve out in 65 days I don't pull one and lose no calves because of birthing problems also 3 of them don't calf for some odd reason sale barn cows I just lost 8 hfrs because of the calving probs so that cost me 8 x$1175=$8400 the ones off the ranch I sell the one that didn't calve and he refunds the diff from what I get at the sale barn so I didn't lose anything so my cost in the remaining ones is $65,800 the ones from the sale barn cost me $4000 after I sell them that is 8x$550=$4400 subtract that from the original cost of those 8 which was $8400 sale barn cows$58750 - 4000=54750 in 42 cows for an avg price of $1303.57 ranch cows $70000-4200=$65800 in 47 cows for an avg price of$1400.00 and because he knows what my cows are he buys my calfs back at market or above and I pay no freight or commission so if the ranch calves weigh 550# and bring $1.05 that is $577.50pr hd if the sale barn calves weigh 525# and bring $1.02 that is $535.50 and then I pay commision and freight at $26.50 per hd $1113 so the sale barn calves netted $21378 and the ones from the ranch netted $27142.50 so it doesn't take as long to pay the difference when you put the pencil to it [/QUOTE]
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